map of genertela

[juhanfg]

I've been trying to link all the maps that you can download for the different regions into a big map of genertela. My problem lies in the scale given in the maps and the size of the geographical features. They don't match.

I just wanted to have a big map with all the cities/detail of the regional ones. Has anyone managed to do this?

Thanks,

J

 

[Loz]

Colin Driver is working on this right now for HeroQuest. He's already done some superb maps for the Durengard Scroll and the Trader Princes HQ books. He's had the same issues with scale you've encountered but with diligence, overcome them.

How these maps will be released is anyone's guess, as they're not Mongoose publications, although I've mentioned Colin's work to the powers that be at Mongoose Towers.

If I get any more info, I'll post via these boards.

 

[Alakoring]

It might be easiest to start with a map of the entire world, such as those from the (out of print) boxed works like Glorantha or Elder Secrets. There may be similar maps at www.glorantha.com. (This of course assumes you're mapping Third Age Glorantha -- there are significant differences in the Second Age.)

 

[juhanfg]

Well, I thought about that as well. But to be honest I'm interested in the second age.

I think one of the additional problems I'm having is that the maps available for download from the mongoose site are quite low resolution so the details of the map get blurry quite soon and the names of the cities become unreadable. Well, they are unreadable to begin with!

Does anynoby know if there are high resolution version of those maps? I could scan the book but that is not an ideal solution since I would have to get a scanner first.

 

[ninthcouncil]

Does anynoby know if there are high resolution version of those maps?

It's been raised a few times here but only the little ones have been made available.

I did some cropping, tilting, resizing and overlapping a while back and got a usable version of Genertela west of the Holy Country. But as far as names were concerned, I scrubbed out the originals and overlayed new ones, to overcome the resolution problem. It doesn't matter too much if the landscape colouration is a bit fuzzy, but the text was unusable.

 

[juhanfg]

Any chance you can send me that map?

It'll save me having to do the work.

J

 

[ninthcouncil]

Any chance you can send me that map?

It'll save me having to do the work.

J

I don't have access to it currently (long story, but the data is on a computer which doesn't have the drawing program I used loaded on to it, and isn't currently connected to the internet). I'll see if I can get it sorted out ASAP. Send us a PM and I'll get back to you, but it may not be for a few days - my internet presence is a bit sporadic at the moment.

 

[soltakss]

I've been trying to link all the maps that you can download for the different regions into a big map of genertela. My problem lies in the scale given in the maps and the size of the geographical features. They don't match.

Tell me about it!

I struggled with this for many months when I drew a map of Central Genertela.

I just wanted to have a big map with all the cities/detail of the regional ones. Has anyone managed to do this?

I did it for the Third Age for central genertela.

In the end, the best way to do it, by far, is to use the maps in Genertela:Crucible of the Hero Wars as a base. This works because they are all reasonably internally consistent and can be photocopied and resized to allow them to be taped together.

Then get as many of the original RQ/Gloranthan maps as you can and work out the corresponding scales. The best way to do this is to take several city-pairs from two sets of maps, work out how far they are from each other and then take an average. Enlarge/reduce the maps to get the scale indicated by the average and superimpose it on the earlier map. This gives you a lot of detail.

Finally, draw your map on top of the earlier maps to get an idea of where things should be.

The Lunar Empire Map on the Issaries website looks very pretty but does not corespond to the earlier maps of Glorantha. When I asked the person who compiled the map, he basically said that they made m ost of it up. So, I wouldn't base anything on that map apart from where it has new things that don't appear on other maps.

In my experience, the maps that are most consistent are:
Dragon Pass/Nomad Gods/Griffin Mountain (2nd edition) - this gives a good feel for Prax/Dragon Pass/Northern Tarsh
Dagori Inkarth (Trollpak)
Holy Country Map (RQ Companion, but there are also online examples that agree with that base map)
The Map of the Lunar Empire from Wyrms Footnotes etc.
Sartar/Prax map from RQ2 Rulebook
Any other maps

See http://www.soltakss.com/maps1.html for more information.

I'll try and get mty last remaining copy of the Central Genertela map scanned in and made available online. It's not very artistic, but I am fairly sure the scales and proportions are right and would work as a base.

As for Second Age, I couldn't really help/comment on that as there are not enough maps for the time period. I supose Third Age maps should give clues about what is there, but they fall over when looking at cities and a lot of minor terrain features.

Hope that helps.

Simon

 

[juhanfg]

Well i was interested in the second age map mostly, but to be honest if you publish the map for the third age I would be more than happy to download it.


J

 

[Alakoring]

The Lunar Empire Map on the Issaries website looks very pretty but does not corespond to the earlier maps of Glorantha.

I based my Second Age Peloria map http://www.glorantha.com/new/fan/maps.html on one of Greg's maps, and there are indeed some differences from the Lunar Empire map. I honestly don't know which is more correct -- it was easier for me to work with Greg's.

As for Second Age, I couldn't really help/comment on that as there are not enough maps for the time period. I supose Third Age maps should give clues about what is there, but they fall over when looking at cities and a lot of minor terrain features.

I removed any obvious Lunar influences from my Second Age Peloria map. It's an area where I don't think the basic geography has changed much in recent centuries.

 

[soltakss]

Oops!

Not that one, I haven't looked at the new Second Age map. I meant the Lunar Empire map, which is completely different.

Yours looks very nice too. I'm sure it's accurate