Lone Wolf: Stand By. . .

[Sado]

Has the announcement not been posted here yet?

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=296501

EDIT-Never mind, I see it in the General section

 

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Now that the announcement has been made, how do you feel about it? I ask especially about the future of the established LoneWolf RPG... I like it very much and will be a little sad to see it go...

 

[Sado]

Now that the announcement has been made, how do you feel about it? I ask especially about the future of the established LoneWolf RPG... I like it very much and will be a little sad to see it go...

Mongoose did as good a job as I think anyone possibly could have with the current Lone Wolf RPG, but I just don't think the D20/OGL system is a good fit for it. I'm dying to see what their system based on the one in the books looks like.

 

[Bon-Al Ironforge]

Now that the announcement has been made, how do you feel about it? I ask especially about the future of the established LoneWolf RPG... I like it very much and will be a little sad to see it go...

Mongoose did as good a job as I think anyone possibly could have with the current Lone Wolf RPG, but I just don't think the D20/OGL system is a good fit for it. I'm dying to see what their system based on the one in the books looks like.

do the books really have a system? I am not sure if they have what is qualifed as a system, as because it is a book, is it inherently a very simplistic system.

Al

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

I wasn't expecting much to change but I'd love to see it done with RQ/WFRP rules (I don't like MRQ, it's missing the total hp so everyone turns into The Biting Knight from Monty Python's holy grail). If they put total life back in then that'd be great (but I suspect they'll be keeping it simple to attract new gamers, one of the reasons the LWd20 seemed like what we'll still be getting).

 

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do the books really have a system? I am not sure if they have what is qualifed as a system, as because it is a book, is it inherently a very simplistic system.

Al

I fail to get your logic here: The d20 RPG rules we have...they actually come as a book themselves :twisted:

Yes, the gamebooks have a sort of system, just very much simpler then any other game I have played (well, maybe "The Squirrel Attack RPG" could be compared to those *lol*) but those are rules that allow you to handle skill use, combat, magic and so on. Maybe not a strong system there, but a system nevertheless... :!:

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

*cough* SKILL, STAMINA & LUCK anyone?

 

[Bon-Al Ironforge]

do the books really have a system? I am not sure if they have what is qualifed as a system, as because it is a book, is it inherently a very simplistic system.

Al

I fail to get your logic here: The d20 RPG rules we have...they actually come as a book themselves :twisted:

Yes, the gamebooks have a sort of system, just very much simpler then any other game I have played (well, maybe "The Squirrel Attack RPG" could be compared to those *lol*) but those are rules that allow you to handle skill use, combat, magic and so on. Maybe not a strong system there, but a system nevertheless... :!:

I mean the game books - the "system" is a set of 10 skills, and an EP and CS score - I would think it would be very difficult to make a full RP system based off of that.

Al

PS Balgin, sounds like you have a bad cough, maybe you should go to the Dr?

 

[Sado]

*cough* SKILL, STAMINA & LUCK anyone?

Quit pimping the competition, dang it!

Hmm, "Flight From the Dark", Fighting Fantasy #62?

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

*cough* SKILL, STAMINA & LUCK anyone?

Quit pimping the competition, dang it!

Hmm, "Flight From the Dark", Fighting Fantasy #62?

Nah, that was the legendary unpublished Bloodbones, right?

And I intentionaly avoided mentioning an actual game system (whilst reminding people of one of the simplest gamebook rules systems out there (the other gamebooks all tended to actualy have more complicated rules, Way of the Tiger, Bloodfeud of Altheus etc, all had more complicated rules. Lone Wolf had simpler rules, but a lot more of them, thus rendering the LW books slightly more complicated than the FF series).

 

[Sado]

*cough* SKILL, STAMINA & LUCK anyone?

Quit pimping the competition, dang it!

Hmm, "Flight From the Dark", Fighting Fantasy #62?

Nah, that was the legendary unpublished Bloodbones, right?

Bloodbones would have been #60, and will be (if not already) #26 of the new print run:

http://www.iconbooks.co.uk/wizard/wbook.cfm?isbn=1-84046-765-7

(I guess I should have made Flight From the Dark #61, oops).

But hey, Fighting Fantasy got a real tabletop RPG in the form of Advanced Fighting Fantasy, why not Lone Wolf?

I am so looking forward to this!

 

[Balgin Stondraeg]

My copy of Bloodbones arrived in the post today .

 

[Bon-Al Ironforge]

My copy of Bloodbones arrived in the post today .

You will have to let us know how it is.
Al

 

[Elric27]

While the reprinting of the gamebooks and the eventual creation of the remaining 4 books by Mongoose is welcome news, as well as the eventual Lone Wolf CRPG, the decision of Mongoose to publish a new version of the RPG not using d20 rules is very disappointing. The d20 rules set is an excellent conversion of the Lone Wolf universe, and has given my group and I, almost 3 years of amazing roleplay througout at least three campaigns, one of which just started. Some half-baked version of the rules using a random d10 or heaven forbid, Runequest sytem, leaves me cold and somewhat angry with Mongoose with abandoning a low supported line that earned great awards and representation with hundreds of players everywhere. Given this current focus and trend towards non d20 products, except for licensed games such Conan, Babylon 5, and occasional support for the older d20 products lines, I probably won't be purchasing any Mongoose products at all for many years to come. Too many d20/OGL systems produced by Mongoose have come and gone, and now Mongoose seems to be eliminating the lines of products that really established them as a premeir RPG publisher in the early breath of d20.

For example
Armageddon 2089-No support after 2003
Quintessential Guides-Abandoned after second updates series
Encylopedia Arcana-Same result
and so on.

Now let's add Lone Wolf d20 to the list? Way to go, Mongoose, way to go.

 

[jadrax]

I must say, i don't really think Lone Wolf gelled with D20 that well. There where a lot of things that just didn't seem to really reflect the books.

I look forward to the new release.

 

[toothill man]

the story having been on the ground since the start is not that simple

slaine d20-to be rewritten for RQ with new material by someone in mongoose towers who loves the system 8)
judge dredd d20-second edition has been talked about for sometime system unknown awaiting I guess someone to write it
armeggedon d20-wonderful world and one of my favourites but never as great as could be(novel was brilliant) so one day will be written I guess again
lone wolf d20-as high magic as mongoose has gone but just like b5 mongoose is going to the canon stuff by mr D himself :twisted:

mongoose have alot of brands in the fire and some get alot of stuff some less some series are finished like the EA,QUINT and SLAYER series but from being unique lines every tom dick and harry company copied the basic idea.by going canon with copywrite protecting them it is a more sensable bet.

d20 products are good but it makes no sense to me for WoTC to continue giving money to other companys so dont think next version will be such a open licence to print money that both 3 and 3.5 were.

 

[Sado]

But hey, Fighting Fantasy got a real tabletop RPG in the form of Advanced Fighting Fantasy, why not Lone Wolf?

You know, I just realized how this sounded. This wasn't meant as an insult to the Lone Wolf OGL game by Mongoose. They did the best job translating LW to D20 that I could imagine. In no way did I mean that Mongoose's OGL version was not a "real" RPG.

What I meant was that FF had gotten a tabletop RPG using an expanded version of the system from the books (in the form of Advanced Fighting Fantasy), which I would like to see for LW (which I understand is what Mongoose intends). So if any 'geese took offense at my comment, please accept my apologies. I appreciate all the work you've done bringing one of my favorite fantasy settings back to life.

 

[toothill man]

no offence taken just trust mongoose to do the right thing and matt and co always do better than you thought.