Kull DIY project (CC & suggestion welcomed)
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Yeah it's one of the best found so far, but -for me- there's 2 problem with it.
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In Riding into the sunrise/Untitled fragment: Kull describe the lay of the land and, the way he says it, Farsun and Thurania are much closing -since they are rival nations. On this map Kaa-u and Verulia are rightbetween the two.
Lemuria is a chain of Island formed by the highest peak of Sunkun Mu (I don't recall where this is stated though)...so it stand to beleive that Lemuria and Mu would be closer together then shown on this map.
This is something I'm planning to address in my personal map.
1: I was debating that between a d6 and a d8 and leaned towrds the d6 since both 'non-combatant' class -Scholar and temptress had d6 and I was seeing the minstrel as more of a non combattant, support character. But I'll look into it.
3-4: Good suggestion, i,ll see what I can do with it.
5: That would make him as knowledgable as a Scholar, and distinguishing him a bit more from the Temptress...yeah that might work better.
I will pounder on this this weekend and see a bit more when I'll write a bit more of this book.
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In Riding into the sunrise/Untitled fragment: Kull describe the lay of the land and, the way he says it, Farsun and Thurania are much closing -since they are rival nations. On this map Kaa-u and Verulia are rightbetween the two.
Lemuria is a chain of Island formed by the highest peak of Sunkun Mu (I don't recall where this is stated though)...so it stand to beleive that Lemuria and Mu would be closer together then shown on this map.
This is something I'm planning to address in my personal map.
1: I was debating that between a d6 and a d8 and leaned towrds the d6 since both 'non-combatant' class -Scholar and temptress had d6 and I was seeing the minstrel as more of a non combattant, support character. But I'll look into it.
3-4: Good suggestion, i,ll see what I can do with it.
5: That would make him as knowledgable as a Scholar, and distinguishing him a bit more from the Temptress...yeah that might work better.
I will pounder on this this weekend and see a bit more when I'll write a bit more of this book.
Back into the saddle.
I've kept the d6 for hit point ot keep him non combatant, but I did modify him to hve 8+int instead of 6+int skills for being more knowledgeable.
I'm not too sure how I will work it out for the Musical instrument, but I'll consider some kind of rules for circumctence bonus to some of ghis skills.
Now before continuing on the Class Borderer and Noble, I fist need to work on the Racial profile.
I might end up with maybe 10 template with a few subtemplate.
Atlantean would be one with 3 subtemplate
Mu will be one with Lemurian as Subtemplate
Thurian will be one with a few subtemplate.
And a few others.
I'll keep you posted
I've kept the d6 for hit point ot keep him non combatant, but I did modify him to hve 8+int instead of 6+int skills for being more knowledgeable.
I'm not too sure how I will work it out for the Musical instrument, but I'll consider some kind of rules for circumctence bonus to some of ghis skills.
Now before continuing on the Class Borderer and Noble, I fist need to work on the Racial profile.
I might end up with maybe 10 template with a few subtemplate.
Atlantean would be one with 3 subtemplate
Mu will be one with Lemurian as Subtemplate
Thurian will be one with a few subtemplate.
And a few others.
I'll keep you posted
Here's the racial breakup: Not very elegant (as setup), but it gives a good idea of how I see things.
Major and Minor races of the Thurian Age
Major Races __________Associated Variant races__________Nations
Atlantean____________Civilized, Beast-man______________Atlantis
Elder________________-_____________________________-
Kaa-u_______________-_____________________________Kaa-u
Leptean______________-____________________________Southern Nation
Mu__________________Lemurian______________________Lemuria, Mu
Pict_________________-_____________________________Pict Islands
Snake-People_________-_____________________________-
Sillan_______________Baekjean_______________________Silla,Baekje
Southern Islander_____-______________________________Demascar, Rikos
Thurian_____________Grondarean, Zarfhaanan___________Commoria, Farsun, Grondar, Kamelia, Valusia, Verulia, Thurania, Zarfhaana
Thulean_____________-______________________________Thule
Va’atu______________Van’atu_________________________Far Eastern Land
Major and Minor races of the Thurian Age
Major Races __________Associated Variant races__________Nations
Atlantean____________Civilized, Beast-man______________Atlantis
Elder________________-_____________________________-
Kaa-u_______________-_____________________________Kaa-u
Leptean______________-____________________________Southern Nation
Mu__________________Lemurian______________________Lemuria, Mu
Pict_________________-_____________________________Pict Islands
Snake-People_________-_____________________________-
Sillan_______________Baekjean_______________________Silla,Baekje
Southern Islander_____-______________________________Demascar, Rikos
Thurian_____________Grondarean, Zarfhaanan___________Commoria, Farsun, Grondar, Kamelia, Valusia, Verulia, Thurania, Zarfhaana
Thulean_____________-______________________________Thule
Va’atu______________Van’atu_________________________Far Eastern Land
Ok here is my first template. I Used the Cimmerian and the Hyperborean to help me since one is the descendant of the Atlantean and the other is isolationist and xenophobic.
So what do you think?? CC welcomed:
ATLANTEAN
Atlanteans are a race of Isolationist, xenophobic Islanders. Their skin is on the dark side of fair and tans easily. They tend to have dark hair and blue or grey eyes. They are tall physically powerful, very fierce. They are not often met, but still have a reputation of being one of the fiercest barbarian cultures. Atlantean are very blunt and direct in their manner of speech.
Culture: Atlantean culture is survivalist and barbaric. Atlantean are a race of fierce, isolationist islanders. They live in tribes spread across the various mountains, valleys and jungles of the Island. They despise anyone that is not of their own tribe, making them a feuding war-like race. They are however not very advanced technologically still making use of primitive weapons
Names: Atlantean names tend to be short and hyphenated. Some exemple of male names are Kull, Am-ra and Gor-na. exemple of a Female name is Ala.
Religion: Atlantean tends mostly toward Totemic faith –In which each one has a personal totem. Some calls upon the Old Gods.
Racial Features: All of the following are Atlantean racial features:
• +2 Strength, +2 Constitution, - 2 intelligence, -2 charisma. Atlantean are a very powerful race, but isolationist and xenophobic attitude and bluntness makes it hard to deal with others.
• +2 racial bonus to all climb and swim checks. Living on a mountainous Island makes them some of the best mountain climber and swimmer
• -1 racial penalty to all Diplomacy, gather information, verbal-oriented performance and bluff checks: Their prejudice does transpose in their speech.
• +2 Circumstance bonus to all hide, Listen, move silently, survival and Spot check made in Jungles, Temperate Mountain and Mountainous seacoast. The Atlantean thoroughly master their environment.
Background Skills: Climb, Knowledge (local), Survival, swim
Favored Class: Barbarian
Prohibited Class: Gladiator, Noble, Minstrel, Scholar, Temptress
Automatic languages: Atlantean
Bonus languages: Pict, Kaa-u, Lemurian
So what do you think?? CC welcomed:
ATLANTEAN
Atlanteans are a race of Isolationist, xenophobic Islanders. Their skin is on the dark side of fair and tans easily. They tend to have dark hair and blue or grey eyes. They are tall physically powerful, very fierce. They are not often met, but still have a reputation of being one of the fiercest barbarian cultures. Atlantean are very blunt and direct in their manner of speech.
Culture: Atlantean culture is survivalist and barbaric. Atlantean are a race of fierce, isolationist islanders. They live in tribes spread across the various mountains, valleys and jungles of the Island. They despise anyone that is not of their own tribe, making them a feuding war-like race. They are however not very advanced technologically still making use of primitive weapons
Names: Atlantean names tend to be short and hyphenated. Some exemple of male names are Kull, Am-ra and Gor-na. exemple of a Female name is Ala.
Religion: Atlantean tends mostly toward Totemic faith –In which each one has a personal totem. Some calls upon the Old Gods.
Racial Features: All of the following are Atlantean racial features:
• +2 Strength, +2 Constitution, - 2 intelligence, -2 charisma. Atlantean are a very powerful race, but isolationist and xenophobic attitude and bluntness makes it hard to deal with others.
• +2 racial bonus to all climb and swim checks. Living on a mountainous Island makes them some of the best mountain climber and swimmer
• -1 racial penalty to all Diplomacy, gather information, verbal-oriented performance and bluff checks: Their prejudice does transpose in their speech.
• +2 Circumstance bonus to all hide, Listen, move silently, survival and Spot check made in Jungles, Temperate Mountain and Mountainous seacoast. The Atlantean thoroughly master their environment.
Background Skills: Climb, Knowledge (local), Survival, swim
Favored Class: Barbarian
Prohibited Class: Gladiator, Noble, Minstrel, Scholar, Temptress
Automatic languages: Atlantean
Bonus languages: Pict, Kaa-u, Lemurian
The civilized Atlantean will be a bit more 'balanced' game-wise...as will the other racial template. But I wanted the Atlantean to be Serious Bad@$$.
The only 3 other 'Unblanced' template will be the Intelligent Beast-man of Atlantis, the Serpent-man and potentially the elder Race. Savage Beast-man of Atlantis will be in the Bestiary. Unbalance in termes of high plus and low negatives, but overall breaking even...I think.
I was debating whether to include the Bridmen, seen in 1 Kull story, but I think not, they were too one-shot to be worth it.
The only 3 other 'Unblanced' template will be the Intelligent Beast-man of Atlantis, the Serpent-man and potentially the elder Race. Savage Beast-man of Atlantis will be in the Bestiary. Unbalance in termes of high plus and low negatives, but overall breaking even...I think.
I was debating whether to include the Bridmen, seen in 1 Kull story, but I think not, they were too one-shot to be worth it.
Good day,
Well after a bit of 1 year hiatus, I'm back and this winter I intend to restart working on my Kull Sourcebook. Life got reall busy and crazy but at least I was able to buy and ready the final Kull Comic book reprint from Dark Horse Comic.
The first order will be to complete the Race section so that I might afterward complete the class section (indicate class update)...and maybe get myself a PDF editor to put it in a nice clean format rather then word.
Now my question for you...Are you still interested in seeing my work progression??
Well after a bit of 1 year hiatus, I'm back and this winter I intend to restart working on my Kull Sourcebook. Life got reall busy and crazy but at least I was able to buy and ready the final Kull Comic book reprint from Dark Horse Comic.
The first order will be to complete the Race section so that I might afterward complete the class section (indicate class update)...and maybe get myself a PDF editor to put it in a nice clean format rather then word.
Now my question for you...Are you still interested in seeing my work progression??
Supplement Four
Mongoose
Boneguard said:
Yes, sir. I am.
Here is one Racial template I'm having a bit of issue. But where I'm debating is: Should I give it +1 or +2 level adjustmenr or not?
Background: About 60 years ago, a evil Sorceror started to experiment and created a race of Beastman (kind of like ape-man) by magically altering Atlantian. Most went feral but a few retain some of their intelligence and tried to control their more feral kin.
Now The original Beastman is a template added to the Atlantian Racial modifier (+2Str, +2Con, -2Int, -2Cha) for a total of +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con -6Int, -2Wis, -6Cha.
Also the original template would give:
- Low-light vision,
- Improve grapple,
- 3 natural attack (1d6 fist, 1d6 fist, 1d8 bite)
- Naturalarmour +2 and Damage reduction of 3 (tough hide).
- +4d8 (eg 4 humanoid level)
But recently 1st and 2nd generation born Beastmen are starting to show up and the Intelligent Beastman would be available as a (rare) PC race on Atlantis:
Stat modifier: +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con, -4Int, -2Wis, -4Cha
Level wise: 4 level of humanoid
Racial benefit: Low-light vision; 3 natural attacks; natural armor +2 and DR3; +2 to climb, -1 additional pernalty to social skill with non-beastman; +2 Circumstance bonus to all hide, Listen, move silently, survival and Spot check made in Jungles.
Racial skill: climb, hide, listen, spot, survival.
Low-tech culture (stone and wooden simple weapon only)
I'm aware it's physically over the top and more powerful that all other racial template present, but I'm also trying to balance it with a slower progression and social penalty.
Go ahead and Rip in and help me improve it (in other world CC and suggestion please)
Background: About 60 years ago, a evil Sorceror started to experiment and created a race of Beastman (kind of like ape-man) by magically altering Atlantian. Most went feral but a few retain some of their intelligence and tried to control their more feral kin.
Now The original Beastman is a template added to the Atlantian Racial modifier (+2Str, +2Con, -2Int, -2Cha) for a total of +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con -6Int, -2Wis, -6Cha.
Also the original template would give:
- Low-light vision,
- Improve grapple,
- 3 natural attack (1d6 fist, 1d6 fist, 1d8 bite)
- Naturalarmour +2 and Damage reduction of 3 (tough hide).
- +4d8 (eg 4 humanoid level)
But recently 1st and 2nd generation born Beastmen are starting to show up and the Intelligent Beastman would be available as a (rare) PC race on Atlantis:
Stat modifier: +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con, -4Int, -2Wis, -4Cha
Level wise: 4 level of humanoid
Racial benefit: Low-light vision; 3 natural attacks; natural armor +2 and DR3; +2 to climb, -1 additional pernalty to social skill with non-beastman; +2 Circumstance bonus to all hide, Listen, move silently, survival and Spot check made in Jungles.
Racial skill: climb, hide, listen, spot, survival.
Low-tech culture (stone and wooden simple weapon only)
I'm aware it's physically over the top and more powerful that all other racial template present, but I'm also trying to balance it with a slower progression and social penalty.
Go ahead and Rip in and help me improve it (in other world CC and suggestion please)
Boneguard said:
I think your damage increments are way too high. Your stats indicate that Beastman's natch attacks are the equivalent of 2 short swords and 1 longsword per round. WAY too much.
I'd recommend 1-3 x 2 and 1d4 for the bite. That's still alot of damage. More so than a large wolf of 150lbs.
-1 social penalty? this guy doesn't have a lisp or a goofy unibrow.
Remember on a d20 game -1 is only 5% reduction
the dude is a hulking beast with fur claws and fangs. Definitely a -10 (ie he's doing normal (10dc challenges at 20 dc checks).
I'm not really sure why he would even have social interactions. Not like he's going to the bar and seduce a wench or haggle with a greengrocer for some fruit. The dude is just going to grab and take things.
Remember on a d20 game -1 is only 5% reduction
the dude is a hulking beast with fur claws and fangs. Definitely a -10 (ie he's doing normal (10dc challenges at 20 dc checks).
I'm not really sure why he would even have social interactions. Not like he's going to the bar and seduce a wench or haggle with a greengrocer for some fruit. The dude is just going to grab and take things.
Supplement Four
Mongoose
Boneguard,
Remember, when doing your stats, that the Conan RPG is actually designed to be played at very low levels (according to 2nd Edition). The majority of the NPCs your PCs will encounter will be in the 1-3 level range, no matter the level of the PCs. The stand-out NPCs will be 4th level or higher, but very rarely higher than 10th. There is much ado about the Pictish savages in the Conan stories, but the game tells us that the average Pict warrior is 1st level. Belit's black Corsairs are feared up and down the western coast, but the game shows us that Belit's average corsair is a 2nd level character.
If your Kull game is to mirror the Conan RPG (and I think the Conan RPG plays extremely well given the 2nd Edition clarifcation on the game's character level sweespot), keep that sweetspot in mind when designing your critters, classes, and characters.
Remember, when doing your stats, that the Conan RPG is actually designed to be played at very low levels (according to 2nd Edition). The majority of the NPCs your PCs will encounter will be in the 1-3 level range, no matter the level of the PCs. The stand-out NPCs will be 4th level or higher, but very rarely higher than 10th. There is much ado about the Pictish savages in the Conan stories, but the game tells us that the average Pict warrior is 1st level. Belit's black Corsairs are feared up and down the western coast, but the game shows us that Belit's average corsair is a 2nd level character.
If your Kull game is to mirror the Conan RPG (and I think the Conan RPG plays extremely well given the 2nd Edition clarifcation on the game's character level sweespot), keep that sweetspot in mind when designing your critters, classes, and characters.
Fair point. How about this revised version then?
Now The original Beastman is a template added to the Atlantian Racial modifier (+2Str, +2Con, -2Int, -2Cha) for a total of +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con -6Int, -2Wis, -6Cha.
Also the original template would give:
- Low-light vision,
- Improve grapple,
- 3 natural attack (1d3 x2 fists; 1d4 bite)
- Natural armor +2 and Damage reduction of 3 (tough hide).
- +2d8 (2 humanoid level)
- 10 penalty to social skill with non beastmen
- Level adjustment +2
But recently 1st and 2nd generation borned Beastmen are starting to show up and the Intelligent Beastman would be available as a (rare) PC race on Atlantis:
Stat modifier: +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con, -4Int, -2Wis, -4Cha
Level wise: 2 level of humanoids
Racial benefit: Low-light vision; 3 natural attacks; Natural armor +2 and DR3; +2 to climb, -10 additional penalty to social skill with non-beastman; +2 Circumstance bonus to all hide, Listen, move silently, survival and Spot check made in Jungles.
Racial skill: climb, hide, listen, spot, survival.
Low-tech culture (stone and wooden simple weapon only)
Level adjustment +2
Now The original Beastman is a template added to the Atlantian Racial modifier (+2Str, +2Con, -2Int, -2Cha) for a total of +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con -6Int, -2Wis, -6Cha.
Also the original template would give:
- Low-light vision,
- Improve grapple,
- 3 natural attack (1d3 x2 fists; 1d4 bite)
- Natural armor +2 and Damage reduction of 3 (tough hide).
- +2d8 (2 humanoid level)
- 10 penalty to social skill with non beastmen
- Level adjustment +2
But recently 1st and 2nd generation borned Beastmen are starting to show up and the Intelligent Beastman would be available as a (rare) PC race on Atlantis:
Stat modifier: +4Str, +6Dex, +4Con, -4Int, -2Wis, -4Cha
Level wise: 2 level of humanoids
Racial benefit: Low-light vision; 3 natural attacks; Natural armor +2 and DR3; +2 to climb, -10 additional penalty to social skill with non-beastman; +2 Circumstance bonus to all hide, Listen, move silently, survival and Spot check made in Jungles.
Racial skill: climb, hide, listen, spot, survival.
Low-tech culture (stone and wooden simple weapon only)
Level adjustment +2
