Game Balance - Hopes and fears for 2nd Edition

[MongooseMatt]

The only Minbari ships fired on with pulse weapons were those during the E-M war where the EA ships couldn't hit because of stealth...

Oh, there is one Sharlin that got savaged by pulse fire - anyone?

 

[Alexb83]

Obviously the Trigati got killed - good thing for the Minbari attackers that they'd turned off the stealth system for B5's benefit... heavens know Minbari don't get +1 to beat stealth

The Enfili got one of its wings sliced off, IIRC, by the Shadows, in the first major engagement when they were protecting the Drazi.
One at Coriana got a few shadow beams intersecting on its main hull, but I dont think you see it explode, you simply see the impact and a chunk flying out.

Doesn't one of the planet killer missiles thwap into one, also?

 

[Burger]

The only Minbari ships fired on with pulse weapons were those during the E-M war where the EA ships couldn't hit because of stealth...

Oh, there is one Sharlin that got savaged by pulse fire - anyone?

Valen'tha

 

[Target]

All that is done by super weaponary, not the standard weapons that seem blow normal ships to smithareens which infer that Sharlins are tougher than other ships.

 

[emperorpenguin]

All that is done by super weaponary, not the standard weapons that seem blow normal ships to smithareens which infer that Sharlins are tougher than other ships.

there was no super weaponry on the prometheus......

 

[H]

it being in the stargate universe.. ;-)

so what are people trying to say? only beams can hurt Sharlins?! I mean, mostly, only beams really do much harm to BinTak, Takatas, ot Warlocks, unless they have insane numbers of dice from them?

 

[Target]

The only Minbari ships fired on with pulse weapons were those during the E-M war where the EA ships couldn't hit because of stealth...

All the others attacked were attacked with beams.


Nick

G'Quans , Primus , i would even be so bold that most other races ship all seem to blow up with pulse type weaponary.
In the battle scenes you actually see Sharlins getting hit but not much damage results.

 

[Alexb83]

It wasn't just the Prometheus, was it? Firing point blank range, with the inference being that no stealth system was active.

 

[captainsmirk]

The only Minbari ships fired on with pulse weapons were those during the E-M war where the EA ships couldn't hit because of stealth...

All the others attacked were attacked with beams.


Nick

G'Quans , Primus , i would even be so bold that most other races ship all seem to blow up with pulse type weaponary.
In the battle scenes you actually see Sharlins getting hit but not much damage results.

Note that my post was specifically about Minbari ships as noted in the first paragraph. Plus a few pulses hitting are not going to do much damage, pulse cause damage through lots of hits. Its the stealth that made Minbari ships so tough in the E-M war.


Nick

 

[Burger]

It wasn't just the Prometheus, was it? Firing point blank range, with the inference being that no stealth system was active.

No, the Prometheus was not a Sharlin The Sharlin was the Valen'tha.

 

[Target]

All that is done by super weaponary, not the standard weapons that seem blow normal ships to smithareens which infer that Sharlins are tougher than other ships.

there was no super weaponry on the prometheus......

That ship was still operational & even seemed to do a lot of damage to the EA fleet till it fled. They looked to be getting the worst of it by the end of it before they fled.
The Prometheus also fired on it first while it was unprepared.

 

[Burger]

The Prometheus also fired on it first while it was unprepared.

How does being prepared make the armour any stronger, or the weapons any less effective against the hull?

 

[Alexb83]

Thbbt to you I meant wasn't it more than just the Prometheus firing at the Valen'tha.

And did she even fire back at all before they jumped out? I thought they simply dove in on their base after they withdrew and cut the place to pieces.

 

[captainsmirk]

That ship was still operational & even seemed to do a lot of damage to the EA fleet till it fled. They looked to be getting the worst of it by the end of it before they fled.
The Prometheus also fired on it first while it was unprepared.

Most of which has no relation to the ships physical toughness. It has much better weapons than the EA which is why they got the worst of it, and one imagines they turned their stealth back on once they were attacked.

So one salvo of fire managed to penetrate deep enough to hit the control centre and kill Dukhat. Now the Minbari seem sensible enough to place their ships command centre as deep inside the hull as possible to resist damage.

Plus the Valen'Tha is the Grey Councils falgship, perhaps its up armoured, like the Grey Sharloin in B5wars was?


Nick

 

[Alexb83]

Dare I say, the death of Dukhat could've just been the result of a lucky crit?

 

[Burger]

I always thought Valen'tha was the Sharkaan variant?

 

[H]

Dare I say, the death of Dukhat could've just been the result of a lucky crit?

Armour is only as thick as the plot requires!

 

[Target]

It might, we don't really know. It could been because it didn't have bulkheads closed for battle or the armour uses power to help deflect/absorb attacks. Maybe under red alert the Flight comp automatiaclly closes hull breeches by shutting doors to help prevent damage.
The Prometheus might have been a Rail Hyperion & it was railgun doing the damage.I imagine there isn't a lot diffrence between the way they look when fired.

 

[Target]

Do Sharlins seem tougher than other races ships on the show is the real question?
I say yes, they seemed to able to withstand more punishment than other ships. They didn't seem to explode like G'Quans which apparently quite tough.

 

[Burger]

Do Sharlins seem tougher than other races ships on the show is the real question?
I say yes, they seemed to able to withstand more punishment than other ships. They didn't seem to explode like G'Quans which apparently quite tough.

Well maybe that is why they are War level ships...