tolcreator
Mongoose
With an eye to eventually running a campaign, I've got 2 side-by-side subsectors rolled up. These are "my" subsectors O and P of Foreven. The 2 highest pop planets are Promenade and Cloudwall, and are right next to each other:
Cloudwall 1836 C574ABD-8 R Ga Hi In 526 Na K5V M3V
Promenade 1837 C776ACD-5 S Ga Hi In Lt 515 Na M0V
Now, in addition to rolling these up a-la Traveller, I've also rolled them up a-la Gurps Space 4e
(I wrote a program to do Gurps Space systems, then generated 10,000 of them, then searched for worlds matching the physical UWP, then took that whole system).
Now in Gurps, you can calculate the Carrying Capacity of a world. Plugging the numbers into the above worlds, I get a carrying capacity of 134 and 223 million, respectively. But they have populations of 50 *billion*! Each alone outpopulates the entire rest of the pair of subsectors.
Naturally these two systems are deadly rivals. Cloudwall I'm thinking is the worst of all logans run, soylent green sci fi all churned together. They, at least, have the tech (just about) to exploit the rest of their system. I imagine their entire biosphere has been wiped out, replaced by factory farms, even the oceans exploited as far as possible. They'll have orbital farms, aggressive mining all through the system, to supply the mainworld. The don't seem to *import* much, or they'd have a higher starport! Maybe it's just that their starport sucks, feature-wise, but has plenty of capacity.
But poor old Promenade, groaning under the weight of 50 billion with 1910s tech! I can't help but think Steampunk of course. At least this planet is a little *bigger*, though still smaller than dear old Earth.
My theory is that they are both *lying* about their populations, giving ludicrous, north Korea type figures, when they are really both pop 9 (and still recklessly overcrowded).
Even the tech 8 Cloudwall cannot prosecute a *war* against its rival Promenade, at least not with anything it can make itself. Perhaps it was once higher tech, and some catastrophy reduced its tech base to the current 8.
But if it did manage to launch an invasion of Promenade, clunky TL8 ships (carried on borrowed or bought TL 9 jump tenders?) will still annihilate the dreadnought ironclads, jules verne land ships, and biplanes Promenade can throw against them.
Maybe it was TL9 prior to the invasion, and the invasion efforts so bankrupted it, it has been reduced to TL8. Thus it *did* manage to build its own TL9 jump tenders/jump ships. This could explain the Government of B: Now unpopular after they *lost* the war against hopelessly outmatched, low tech Promenade. Promenade's government of C "enjoys the overwhelming support of it's citizens", perhaps because the underdog beat off the invasion.
Cloudwall 1836 C574ABD-8 R Ga Hi In 526 Na K5V M3V
Promenade 1837 C776ACD-5 S Ga Hi In Lt 515 Na M0V
Now, in addition to rolling these up a-la Traveller, I've also rolled them up a-la Gurps Space 4e
(I wrote a program to do Gurps Space systems, then generated 10,000 of them, then searched for worlds matching the physical UWP, then took that whole system).
Now in Gurps, you can calculate the Carrying Capacity of a world. Plugging the numbers into the above worlds, I get a carrying capacity of 134 and 223 million, respectively. But they have populations of 50 *billion*! Each alone outpopulates the entire rest of the pair of subsectors.
Naturally these two systems are deadly rivals. Cloudwall I'm thinking is the worst of all logans run, soylent green sci fi all churned together. They, at least, have the tech (just about) to exploit the rest of their system. I imagine their entire biosphere has been wiped out, replaced by factory farms, even the oceans exploited as far as possible. They'll have orbital farms, aggressive mining all through the system, to supply the mainworld. The don't seem to *import* much, or they'd have a higher starport! Maybe it's just that their starport sucks, feature-wise, but has plenty of capacity.
But poor old Promenade, groaning under the weight of 50 billion with 1910s tech! I can't help but think Steampunk of course. At least this planet is a little *bigger*, though still smaller than dear old Earth.
My theory is that they are both *lying* about their populations, giving ludicrous, north Korea type figures, when they are really both pop 9 (and still recklessly overcrowded).
Even the tech 8 Cloudwall cannot prosecute a *war* against its rival Promenade, at least not with anything it can make itself. Perhaps it was once higher tech, and some catastrophy reduced its tech base to the current 8.
But if it did manage to launch an invasion of Promenade, clunky TL8 ships (carried on borrowed or bought TL 9 jump tenders?) will still annihilate the dreadnought ironclads, jules verne land ships, and biplanes Promenade can throw against them.
Maybe it was TL9 prior to the invasion, and the invasion efforts so bankrupted it, it has been reduced to TL8. Thus it *did* manage to build its own TL9 jump tenders/jump ships. This could explain the Government of B: Now unpopular after they *lost* the war against hopelessly outmatched, low tech Promenade. Promenade's government of C "enjoys the overwhelming support of it's citizens", perhaps because the underdog beat off the invasion.
