Elves and Dwarves?

[estarriol]

Runequest has Chaos, the big baddy in most setups, but there is no law as such, you follow your own path and that of your God, defined by his Runes and beliefs etc. Its interesting to note that the most chaotically behaving cult is probably Stormbull who is the devoted Chaos hunter.

Chaos in behaviour is different to Chais as a force of nature, and in RQ its a force of nature when we talk about Chaos and chaos creatures., The same as Ligght, Dark, Plant, Earth etc, all are forces with therte own panthoens and creatures in many cases. Of course this knowledge means I might be illuminated so its time for me to run away very very fast, just in case a Stormbuller axes first and asks later.....

One of the main religeous wars focus's on the struggle of Sky Gods (Orlanth) against Air Gods (Yelm, who is also the Sun), the 2 examples might be the other way around, been awhile, Orlanthi eat eggs ritually to show there distain of birds which are an air creature.

 

[Rurik]

Never mind possibly being Illuminated, describing Stormbull as behaving chaotically is enough to get you axed.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

One of the main religeous wars focus's on the struggle of Sky Gods (Orlanth) against Air Gods (Yelm, who is also the Sun), the 2 examples might be the other way around, been awhile, Orlanthi eat eggs ritually to show there distain of birds which are an air creature.

Very much the other way around! Orlanth is the Storm, and Yelm the Bright Emperor, the Sun. They are also the epitome of their followers. Orlanthi are the barbarians, living free and in family clans and groups in the countryside, worshipping in open air, fighting for the sheer fun and practice.

Yelmites are ordered, civilised, regimented.

It's Rome vs the barbarians, basically. But this time Vercingetorix brought friends...

Wulf

 

[Rurik]

Very much the other way around! Orlanth is the Storm, and Yelm the Bright Emperor, the Sun. They are also the epitome of their followers. Orlanthi are the barbarians, living free and in family clans and groups in the countryside, worshipping in open air, fighting for the sheer fun and practice.

Yelmites are ordered, civilised, regimented.

It's Rome vs the barbarians, basically. But this time Vercingetorix brought friends...

Wulf

I had always associated the Lunars with Rome.

The Yelmites may be bad but the Great Orlanth did rescue him from the underworld after all.

After Kicking his a** and putting him there in the first place.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

Runequest has Chaos, the big baddy in most setups, but there is no law as such, you follow your own path and that of your God, defined by his Runes and beliefs etc. Its interesting to note that the most chaotically behaving cult is probably Stormbull who is the devoted Chaos hunter.

Worshippers of Urox, the Storm Bull are generally believed to be unruly, uncouth, bullying, violent, unpredictable and dangerous. These opinions are correct. But when Chaos stalks the night, and all right-thinking men and women cower in terror and barricade themselves into their homes, praying to their Gods that they might see another dawn, the warriors of Storm Bull bellow their challenge and charge into the fight, and then Urox is the greatest God in the world.

This is what Glorantha is all about. The power of myth and the heroism of the classical world.

And Ducks.

All at once.

Wulf

 

[Wulf Corbett]

I had always associated the Lunars with Rome.

It's the difference between 'German' and 'Nazi' in WW2. The Empire was Lunar, but was created by the armies and generals of the old Darra Happan Empire, Yelmites. The Lunars were the rulers and the spiritual leaders, the people and the armies remained Yelmites.

Wulf

 

[Rurik]

The Yelmites may be bad but the Great Orlanth did rescue him from the underworld after all.

After Kicking his a** and putting him there in the first place.

Doh!

/me just realizes I took the board name of a Yelmalio runelord and then proceeded to bash Yelm as well as call that barbarian troublemaker great.

This could seriously affect my next divine intervention.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

/me just realizes I took the board name of a Yelmalio runelord and then proceeded to bash Yelm as well as call that barbarian troublemaker great.

Ah, yes, Yelmalio... the most Gregged bit of all Glorantha... :lol:

Wulf

 

[Rurik]

I had always associated the Lunars with Rome.

It's the difference between 'German' and 'Nazi' in WW2. The Empire was Lunar, but was created by the armies and generals of the old Darra Happan Empire, Yelmites. The Lunars were the rulers and the spiritual leaders, the people and the armies remained Yelmites.

Wulf

Good point.

 

[Malorium]

For a distinct overview of Chaos read Cults of Terror - particularly the Gbaji write up.
I always liked the term Krjalki (sp?) - which was used to denote anything demonic, or in other words anything that was outside your cultural or spiritual frame of reference.
eg - if you are a dirt picking barbarian then meeting a second stage dragonnewt astride his demi bird is going to make you think 'hmmm Chaos Demon and his foul steed'.

I thought the Lunar Empire was loosely modelled on the Persian Empire?

 

[andakitty]

Hmm? I always thought the Lunars looked sort of like an amalgamation of Greek AND Persian styles circa Alexander's time. Good topic for another thread.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

I thought the Lunar Empire was loosely modelled on the Persian Empire?

It's been reimaged a half-dozen times. Persian is better in terms of accuracy, but Roman is a far better known and far more easily visualised concept. One thing HeroQuest has been extraordinarily guilty of is over-intellectualising the background and setting.

Wulf

 

[estarriol]

I thought the Lunar Empire was loosely modelled on the Persian Empire?

It's been reimaged a half-dozen times. Persian is better in terms of accuracy, but Roman is a far better known and far more easily visualised concept. One thing HeroQuest has been extraordinarily guilty of is over-intellectualising the background and setting.

Wulf

Lunar troops were always called Hoplites, with Yelmalions being Phalanx troops with pike.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

Lunar troops were always called Hoplites, with Yelmalions being Phalanx troops with pike.

Which would make them Greek, not either Roman nor Persian... And the earlier illustrations did indeed look VERY Greek.

Wulf

 

[O Dinas Powys]

The intelligent mobile ones include the elves - Brown, Green, Red and Yellow, I think. The Dryads. Runners (NOT Rubble Runners, that's a different thing. Runners are like semi-intelligent elves, like monkeys to the elvish men). There are, I'm sure, others.

Pixies were the fourth major type named (oh and those weird black elves, but lets leave a few secrets to temp the new players shall we? :wink: )

 

[Archer]

Why are they called Brown, Yellow, Green elves etc.?
It is just a tribal name, or what connection do the colour have to them?

 

[Wulf Corbett]

Why are they called Brown, Yellow, Green elves etc.?
It is just a tribal name, or what connection do the colour have to them?

They're called that by humans. Amongst the Aldryami, Brown elves are the Mreli, Green elves the Vronkali (or is it the other way around?), etc. Humans name them after the trees they live amongst. Exactly why jungle elves are called 'yellow' elves escapes me...

Wulf

 

[toothill man]

do they run away lots :shock: :lol:

 

[Archer]

Why are they called Brown, Yellow, Green elves etc.?
It is just a tribal name, or what connection do the colour have to them?

They're called that by humans. Amongst the Aldryami, Brown elves are the Mreli, Green elves the Vronkali (or is it the other way around?), etc. Humans name them after the trees they live amongst. Exactly why jungle elves are called 'yellow' elves escapes me...

Wulf

Ok, so thats the reason.

 

[homerjsinnott]

So, there are Gloranthan half-elves after all? (Officially, I mean?)

There's one. Pavis, founder of the city of that name, was supposedly a half-elf. It required extensive Heroquesting an visits to various Gods...

But... humans and other races could BECOME Aldryami. Initiation consists of having all your bones ripped out and replaced by sticks, and your organs removed and replaced by flowers. Bury the body overwinter, and if Aldrya approves, you will be reborn with the elves in Spring. I had a character did that.

Wulf

I'm sure you are confusing them with Uz, Rune lord of Yelmalio (as could Yelornans) could become Aldryami and it did not entail the process you describe.

This sounds like dwarfish propaganda...