Dyson Sphere issues

[MasterGwydion]

Dyson Spheres are huge. Same with Ringworlds and such. My thought is that you can't even get to them using a Jump Drive. When you jump to a Dyson Sphere, you arrive at the 100D limit. The 100D limit for a Dyson Sphere is 100AU or 15 billion kilometers. As an example, Pluto orbits the Sun at between 30-50AU from the Sun, so you would exit Jump Space 2 to 3 times the distance of Pluto from the Sun. On the upside, at least the M-Drive would function out to 1,000 AUs...lol

In the OTU, I know there are several structures such as this. What is the intent for how these structures are approached in game?

 

[Sigtrygg]

The 100D limit doesn't apply due to density issues.

 

[Condottiere]

Mostly hot air, I would have thought.

However, the star at the heart of the matter, or black hole, still counts.

 

[Geir]

However, the star at the heart of the matter, or black hole, still counts.

And that's where it gets 'weird'. If you just count the star, a Sol-sized sun with a 1AU radius (Earth orbit) sphere would let you jump inside (0.93ish AU). But the shell has some mass and the whole "precipitate out" thing becomes, well, weird. I would think you could exit just outside the shell, by some small distance - as in a few thousands of kilometers, but I really don't know.

I think the only OTU Dyson sphere is some 'small' thing around a red dwarf out in the Vargr Extents somewhere and some rumor of a thing on the far side of Hiver space. I think I would rule that you can't jump to the inside of it, but it would be the equivalent of a size 1 world for jump distance on the outside... just because I want to pick a number, not because I did any math...

 

[Condottiere]

Since the jump drive isn't based on meson technology, I doubt that you can transition through anything substantially solid.

Precipitation than becomes a question of how far that gravitational influence extends from the Dyson surface, and that may be how thick it is, times a hundred.

 

[shammond42]

The 100 diameter limit is a game decision to limit the amount of math that has to be done. It should really be that you have to be X distance up in the gravity well, where X is determined by the mass of the object, not its diameter. 100 Diameters is a convent proxy that breaks down in cases like a Dyson Sphere.

 

[Arkathan]

What is the gravity on the inside of the sphere? Use that equivalent diameter in your calculations.

 

[WHULorigan]

I think the only OTU Dyson sphere is some 'small' thing around a red dwarf out in the Vargr Extents somewhere and some rumor of a thing on the far side of Hiver space. I think I would rule that you can't jump to the inside of it, but it would be the equivalent of a size 1 world for jump distance on the outside... just because I want to pick a number, not because I did any math...

1. The Dyson Sphere rumor is regarding an object on the Far Side of Hiver Space (Sphere/Nooq 3201).
2. The Vargr Extents has a Rosette of Worlds (Tireen/Knaeleng 2910).
3. There is an incomplete Ancient's Ringworld to Trailing in the Outcast of the Whispering Sky (Leenitakot/Hinterworlds 1432).

 

[MasterGwydion]

And that's where it gets 'weird'. If you just count the star, a Sol-sized sun with a 1AU radius (Earth orbit) sphere would let you jump inside (0.93ish AU). But the shell has some mass and the whole "precipitate out" thing becomes, well, weird. I would think you could exit just outside the shell, by some small distance - as in a few thousands of kilometers, but I really don't know.

I think the only OTU Dyson sphere is some 'small' thing around a red dwarf out in the Vargr Extents somewhere and some rumor of a thing on the far side of Hiver space. I think I would rule that you can't jump to the inside of it, but it would be the equivalent of a size 1 world for jump distance on the outside... just because I want to pick a number, not because I did any math...

Wasn't there a ringworld or something around Vume from Pirates of Drinax?

 

[Arkathan]

Wasn't there a ringworld or something around Vume from Pirates of Drinax?

Vume has the huge modular habitat with the alien bacteria.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Vume has the huge modular habitat with the alien bacteria.

Oh right. My bad. I am redownloading the books now. My old laptop is dead.

 

[Arkathan]

Oh right. My bad. I am redownloading the books now. My old laptop is dead.

NP. I looked on DTRPG when I saw your question. I saw it was on sale so I bought it. So thanks for making me look.