Dodges against explosions?

[Korthu]

Can you use the Dodge Trait against a ship exploding? The rule book only states you can't use it against Energy Mines and Jump Points. Anyone? -Thanks.

 

[stryve]

I don't think so.

 

[Harry Lonsdale]

This was discussed at length here. Consensus seems to be yes.

 

[katadder]

yes you can dodge explosions.

 

[Burger]

You can dodge anythingunless the rules say you can't. So you can dodge explosions.

 

[MustEatBrains]

IIRC, in 1st edition you could first not dodge explosions, then it was changed to yes you can, which then seems to have been transfered over to 2nd ed. It does make sense though, ship parts flying around should be dodgeable.

 

[Sulfurdown]

Jump Point Vortex and Energy Mine weapons are both energy shockwaves that expand too quickly and uniformly to dodge. Exploding Ships on the other hand have flying bits of ship that can be sidestepped just like missiles or other particulate shot.



On the topic of expoding ships: For 2nd Edition considerations, are Ancients/Vorlon/Shadows still exempt from explosions when they are reduced to below zero damage?

 

[Triggy]

Jump Point Vortex and Energy Mine weapons are both energy shockwaves that expand too quickly and uniformly to dodge. Exploding Ships on the other hand have flying bits of ship that can be sidestepped just like missiles or other particulate shot.



On the topic of expoding ships: For 2nd Edition considerations, are Ancients/Vorlon/Shadows still exempt from explosions when they are reduced to below zero damage?

Nope, they can still blow up with the best of them!

 

[Shadow Queen]

You cant dodge a fusion bomb.

 

[Chernobyl]

well, not successfully... :lol:

Chern

 

[David Anla Shok']

Yep, you can dodge a ship exploding, just don't try to dodge paying your share of the check. 0;>

 

[Korthu]

Thanks for all the good feed back. I thought you could, but its good to get some advice. -Chad.

 

[Ripple]

omg....Shadow and Vorlons explode now...how did I miss that. What do we have against the fluff here... We see a number of Shadow deaths, none I would call an explosion...sad really.

Ripple

 

[Burger]

omg....Shadow and Vorlons explode now...how did I miss that.

Same way we did I guess... only 1 week for tier 2 playtesting of the entire rules and fleet book!

 

[katadder]

well thought it was only for finding extreme broken stuff (like armageddon sagi that was found straight away).

 

[Triggy]

We do see Vorlon ships fly apart in a hail of debris! Nothing to say Shadow ships can't although I do admit they are one race you'd tend not to see explode. (the main reason 1st ed. didn't have Vorlon/Shadow explosions was not based on fluff - it was because with the Damage mechanic they'd blow up virtually every time!)

 

[Sulfurdown]

Wasn't there one shadow ship that was blown apart when a Vorlon ship powered through it with it's main beams?

 

[lastbesthope]

I think it ended up flying through it, that'd cause most things to break up.

LBH

 

[Ripple]

We did seem them break up...but no bang...no flash....guess it all depends on how you picture 'destroyed' vs 'explodes'. Seems to me ever single ship should produce an explosion then, as virtually all destroyed ships produced debris.

Ripple

 

[Triggy]

We did seem them break up...but no bang...no flash....guess it all depends on how you picture 'destroyed' vs 'explodes'. Seems to me ever single ship should produce an explosion then, as virtually all destroyed ships produced debris.

Ripple

Nah, there are several examples of destroyed ships with internal fires and no external debris.