Connections between the two?

This thread is entirely speculation.

Well after reading the global news thing in the BFE section, I've come to think about something. Could Battlefield Evolution be that whole messed up global war that caused most of the world to lie in ruin, but later on become the basis for the Federation of man in starship troopers?

Anyone else notice the ties or is it just me?
 
Officially, no. However, we have considered a timeline that goes something like BF Evo, A2089, Babylon 5, Starship Troopers. . .

Unofficially, of course ;)
 
If they can, I think some BFE armies would make a nice Colony Defence or LAMI with Tank support (thinking about the russians).
 
Turtle said:
Well, can BFE and SST armies still play against each other?

Rulewise I don't see why not(same rules...) but game balance might be bit of "out" since they aren't playtested against each other(here's thinking that marauder platoons might be "bit" of a hard nut to crack for example...)
 
I don't really see B5 fitting in, but it would sounds cool if mongoose brought out a RPG books concerning it, that is, the four games connected.
 
Turtle said:
Well, can BFE and SST armies still play against each other?
Why not? After all mechanics-wise they're compatibile, while fluff-wise it could be a MI/any aliens fighting a colonial force. May need some polishing on the edges as the armies weren't supposed to work this way, but sounds like good idea to me ^^

tneva82 - marauders should be a tough nut against colonial forces. This is why the colonials are the "inferior" force ;)
 
Makoto said:
tneva82 - marauders should be a tough nut against colonial forces. This is why the colonials are the "inferior" force ;)

True. I kinda like the way theoretical battle in my head turns out. Makes you really believe that marauders made tanks obsolete. Inferior and more expensive to produce&maintain units? Screw tanks! Embrace marauders!

Just don't expect to play 2000 pts marauder platoon vs 2000 pts BF:Evo force and expect to have even close to balanced fight :D

Of course a lot depends on how marauders in SST:Evo turns out but I'm assuming that target/kill/hit numbers won't change nor does gun loadout or effect all that much. Biggest Q's is: Immune to suppression or not?(they better or marauders are crippled...) and what's the effect of javelin there? Still same rules or is it flat d10+something? If it's like d10+4 then chickenhawks will make short work of any BF:Evo tanks since they can shoot twice those shots which can destroy BF:Evo tanks in one shot(and interestingly reverse is not true...).

And infantry will be in trouble. Chickenhawk for example will have firepower to destroy entire fire team in open in one go. If they are in cover then it will take 2 fire actions in average to do that. From one chickenhawk...With hefty range. And that's just chickenhawk. Apes are fun as well. They can simply go in and clobber those poor folks whose basic weapons can't even hurt them and even machine guns barely. And their flamers...Heh heh.

Got to love marauders :lol:
 
Don't know how javelins and longbows will work in BF... But suppose nobody will mind if missiles will work the way that is stronger.
Imo question of suppressing marauders shouldn't even arise, unless we're talking suppressing tanks aswell. Then again... Maybe only heavy weapons (missiles, guns etc) would count for suppresion purposes on tanks/marauders, to represent crews too busy driving for cover/off the firezone to shot back.
I don't see why a marauder couldn't make a short work out of any tank, or any BF unit for that matter, so it's not a problem aswell. This kind of game would simply require a lot of guts and thinking for the colonial commander - just like fielding bow-and-musket armed militia against SM terminators did back in w40k 2nd ed. Seems it'll just be more fun during the game :D
 
Ruleswise the two games might fit, but the fig scales are way off right now...

BF:evo = 28mm

SST:evo = 30+mm(?)

Right now the bf infantry and CAP troopers look stupid side by side. Even the LAMI are too big.

I kinda like how the tanker bug and plasma bug look even bigger than before when compared with the BF troops! The warrior bugs look little too big though.

Skinnies would tower over the BF humans. (Not neccessary a bad thing since they are an alien race... The size difference is not so pronounced when comparing aliens to humans that when doing the human/human comparison)

Forth should look fine alongside the BF forces since they are just big robot thingies. They are just that much bigger in BF games.

I would really like for SST:evo scale to be reduced to 28mm to be combitable with BF:evo, but I guess that would generate an outrage amongst the old SST players (of which I'm one).

Well, I just have to contend collecting the Forth and field them against my EFTF/PLA forces in some sort of "Mars attacks!" scenario...
 
Who actually owns A:2089? The major problem with any "official" timeline or tie-in is that all the games mentioned are separate IPs owned by different companies. And while I'd love some all-inclusive fluff (sans B5 since it's already really developed and doesn't seem to sit in there as well as the other ideas do)... I think it would really require a lot of work and explanation. Certainly something I'd expect more from dedicated fans than a company.
 
Hiromoon said:
*raises his hand*

Sure, I don't have the infantry book and the aircraft book, but I have all the other books...

Oops... let me clarify... who is the IP owner of 2089? Unless I'm mistaken Mongoose is a license-holder but not the actual ower. So, who owns the IP?
 
Col. Hammer said:
but the fig scales are way off right now...

BF:evo = 28mm

SST:evo = 30+mm(?)

Right now the bf infantry and CAP troopers look stupid side by side. Even the LAMI are too big.
Why? Am using LAMIs as conscripts for my 28mm Imperial Guard and they fit very well. Difference is no more than 1-2 mm, enough to put it as natural difference between groups from different planets, in reality it'd transfer into about 7-8 cm, so wuold be passable and natural even for Earth-only recruits.
Plus CAPs should look massive in comparision with both LAMIs and BF minis - power armour.
 
It seemed like coincidence to me. I don't mean scales, like fluff-wise, seeing as how the BFE universe seems to be plotting the beginnings of a ww3 (atleast to me anyways). I still want to say that I want to have some modernish soldiers fending off evil arachnid invaders :) too
 
Makoto said:
[Why? Am using LAMIs as conscripts for my 28mm Imperial Guard and they fit very well. Difference is no more than 1-2 mm, enough to put it as natural difference between groups from different planets, in reality it'd transfer into about 7-8 cm, so wuold be passable and natural even for Earth-only recruits.
Plus CAPs should look massive in comparision with both LAMIs and BF minis - power armour.

Have you seen BF:evo figs? They are true 28mm. Way smaller compared to GWs so-called heroic 28mm.

Everything in the BF:evo is porpotionally smaller than SST or GW figs. They just do not compare well...
The figs are not just shorter, but their heads are smaller, weapons are smaller, limbs are thinner etc. It just doesn't look good when compared side by side.

GWs LOTR figs are closer to BF:evo (but the scale creep seems to growing them too bit by bit...)

And while power armour should be more massive, the people inside them are standard humans. Not three meter hormone grown monsters! (Thats space marines)...
 
Hiromoon said:
Ohhhh...umm....

M J Dougherty?

I don't know. I'd have to dig my copy out and check the inside cover...

Ian Sturrock wrote the main A:2089 book.

He also sold me Warmachines and Earth 2089 on Ebay after I bought the main book in FP.

LBH
 
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