Conan and the Shadow of the sorcerer boxed set

[The King]

Huh? What's wrong with King's fantasy?

That he shared it? 8)

My fantasy is as great as my imagination. And I know to live with (or without) it without frustration because I love and feel body as well as spirit.

 

[Raven Blackwell]

Huh? What's wrong with King's fantasy?

That he shared it? 8)

My fantasy is as great as my imagination. And I know to live with (or without) it without frustration because I love and feel body as well as spirit.

And I imagine taking bloody revenge on a lot of people. I however don't feel the need to share that most days as it's a bit noncondusive to a smooth flow if conversation.

 

[toothill man]

it is a bit of a conversation stopper :shock: :wink: :lol:

 

[The King]

And I imagine taking bloody revenge on a lot of people. I however don't feel the need to share that most days as it's a bit noncondusive to a smooth flow if conversation.

Who is talking of revenge?
When you blow in the wind, the wind blows back stronger. The wind blows forth and back or just plays in circles with the leaves. It carries the sounds and the feelings, the cold and the heat, the desires and the smell of carrion. It carries the spirits and knocks down the bodies. Tales and retaliation.

 

[Raven Blackwell]

It's just an example. I tend to try and maintain a PG-13 persona in public so as not to frighten people. Of late I am not trying to discuss sex and RL violence outside of impersonal topics such as politics. I'm not a 100% at this but I try. People seem to like me better when I keep the personal stuff personal. And I like them better when they don't use females as sex objects instead of actual people. I'm funny that way.

 

[The King]

I didn't talk about sex either.
I just wanted to use nearby people for marketing purpose to promote the boxed set. Everyone knows Conan like women especially if they're young and scantily clad.
I felt it was better than toothill man's idea to invade Mongoose Office Hall with balloons, unless of course he comes also with his children. Then in this case, better let the girls out. :wink:

 

[The King]

But let us not drive off-topic (for once :wink: ) as the pure and simple objective of this thread is to ask for a great campaign for Conan RPG.

 

[toothill man]

the ballons idea would work on a very silly level which is the best place to place such things if you try to a be a serious back seat driver on someone elses company and try to command them then you have already lost.

I like rooting for the underdog and I like the sound of statues but if matt dont turn :shock: it is not going to happen so all we can do is ask in a polite but silly way and hope that one day it sees the light of day 8)

 

[Seanv]

Just continuing to bump this up. Specifically I hope we can see this adventure(I don't care if it is a box set) some day.

 

[Strom]

Any speculation on why Mongoose doesn't want to print this adventure? Matt said something is in the works and I am assuming it is a campaign adventure in the style of Shadow of the Sorcerer. Why go that route if Shadow is already done?

 

[The King]

Moreover, no campaign (only sourcebooks) is announced for the next year.

 

[toothill man]

we would like this alot so heres bumping 8)

 

[Bregales]

Heres my guess based on what Jason wrote on the first page of this thread:

• He missed the deadlines for submissions due to various reasons, which Mongoose probably found unacceptible.
• The person who was sponsoring the project at Mongoose left Mongoose, and it was his pet project. New director of that department not thrilled with idea or problems Jason was experiencing.
• Matt probably decided for financial and other business reasons to just terminate contact with Jason, as Jason had written he was no longer a playtester either. Again, Jason wrote his reasons were varied and included health and business problems, but Mongoose couldn't accept such delays and probably found association with Jason a liability.

Therefore, I'd say no amount of postings of support will make this project come into being. The last thing I saw Jason write was that he was going to finish it on his own time and try to release it through other means (which probably would become a print per pay or pdf option through some 3rd party distributor).

Would we have liked to see it? Yeah, I think everyone realises that. Will it be published by Mongoose? No, not ever. Though nothing's listed for 2006, I'd assume that since Matt wrote simply, "something's in the works" that he's using a lesson learned from this and not releasing information before a contract with the writer of new piece(s) is worked out and the contract is agreed to and understood. That's a fair and logical assumption we should accept a business to make.

End of line.

 

[Strom]

Moreover, no campaign (only sourcebooks) is announced for the next year.

Well, Matt did say that there are plenty of adventures in the works that are not listed on the Upcoming Schedule list - so there is hope. I would really like to see a campaign style adventure - mayhap with a siege adventure - that will take characters from 1-20 level like Shadow promised.

 

[The King]

Moreover, no campaign (only sourcebooks) is announced for the next year.

Well, Matt did say that there are plenty of adventures in the works that are not listed on the Upcoming Schedule list - so there is hope. I would really like to see a campaign style adventure - mayhap with a siege adventure - that will take characters from 1-20 level like Shadow promised.

There will be 32-pages adventures but no big ones.

 

[The King]

...
Therefore, I'd say no amount of postings of support will make this project come into being. The last thing I saw Jason write was that he was going to finish it on his own time and try to release it through other means (which probably would become a print per pay or pdf option through some 3rd party distributor).

Would we have liked to see it? Yeah, I think everyone realises that. Will it be published by Mongoose? No, not ever. Though nothing's listed for 2006, I'd assume that since Matt wrote simply, "something's in the works" that he's using a lesson learned from this and not releasing information before a contract with the writer of new piece(s) is worked out and the contract is agreed to and understood. That's a fair and logical assumption we should accept a business to make.

End of line.

All of this may be true but customers are the people who buy the final products and if so many want to see it (and the poll result is quite good considering this is on this forum) perhaps it will be accepted when Jason forwards his finished works to Mongoose.
Bregales, you are a hope-killer.

 

[Bregales]

All of this may be true but customers are the people who buy the final products and if so many want to see it (and the poll result is quite good considering this is on this forum) perhaps it will be accepted when Jason forwards his finished works to Mongoose.
Bregales, you are a hope-killer.

Well, here's Jason's own words:

It would still be interesting to heat something official to the WHY...

There is no mystery to it.

The project got off to an extremely late start due to some serious miscommunications between Mongoose and myself, and a lack of info I needed to start. It was announced too early (before I'd even submitted a full outline), and major questions I needed to begin went unanswered for a month after the initial announcement.

I was late with the manuscript due to a run of health issues I wouldn't wish on an enemy. I had missed a couple of earlier, tenative deadlines (a deadline was not part of the original contract), but Richard Neale, the line editor, was understanding. I let them know what was up, healthwise, and they gave me some space.

Unfortunately, life also intervened with my day job taking an inordinate amount of extra time, and involving four work-related business trips and one personal trip in the space of five months. A laptop died with some of the manuscript on it, I managed to slice my right index finger to the bone in a small mishap, and other maladies cursed the project.

In the end, to get to press as a boxed set for release this year, it had a drop-dead due date.

When I edged past that, I inquired if Mongoose would be interested in printing it in an alternate format than the boxed set, they said no.

I told them I was going to finish it anyway, but was told that Mongoose has no interest in publishing it in any form. Conan line developer Richard is no longer at Mongoose, and this was his pet project.

I had been working as a proofreader for Mongoose on other products (including Conan), and was told that my services there were not required any more with that task, either.

I appreciate the support and continued interest from folks here, but as far as I know, the project is dead as far as Mongoose is concerned.

I am nearing completion on it (with the cancellation, I took time off to complete some more lucrative work - the box set was a labor of love and was being done at a lower rate than I usually get), but I am certain Mongoose will not publish it in any form.

I wish the best for the Conan line, and am sorry that The Shadow of the Sorcerer won't see press as a part of it, but they've indicated that the door is closed, and I see no reason to disbelieve them.

And to answer the inevitable question, no I can't e-mail anyone the finished campaign. I'd love to, but it's something like 225,000 words of work, and my wife would kill me if I gave it away.

I'm exploring other options for seeing it published, and will let folks here know what becomes of it.

Then later, he came back and replied:

Hey all -

Thanks for the continued interest in the product. I came back to check on things, and am amazed to see the positive response here.

However, I've been led to believe that as far as Mongoose is concerned, cancelled is cancelled. As noted in my previous post:

... I inquired if Mongoose would be interested in printing it in an alternate format than the boxed set, they said no.

I told them I was going to finish it anyway, but was told that Mongoose has no interest in publishing it in any form.

So there you go.

Jason

I wanted to remind you what had already been said in this thread, several pages earlier. if that makes me a hopekiller, fine. Hope, but don't expect it from Mongoose.

End of line. :evil:

 

[The King]

Thank you, I can read too.
You should have tried the USMC (possibly with Strom) to have more faith in what you like and expect.
Anyway it's not because it's rainy in New York that I have to put on my raincoat.
I keep asking for this campaign with all the others around who also want it. Of course as this is a poll thread you can give your opinion and I won't take it bad.
But your pessimism in this matter will not affect me.

 

[Bregales]

Likewise pal. Have a nice whatever.

 

[Strom]

There will be 32-pages adventures but no big ones.

Really? That's too bad. I totally support the campaign for Shadow but if not Shadow then why not a similar type adventure? Cost prohibitive? More than likely, otherwise Mongoose would be interested in this poll and making some dough.