Closing with an enemy.
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Rurik said:
I would expect no less that that type of advice from someone like you. Seen your type many times around, and explains a whole lot about your style.
Anyway - another thing thats goofed up with this system. But the person must use a reaction to hit you, and frankly, I dont ever recall reading anything abnout facing at all in this book, except for rear attacks. You can, since it does not say so, attack ANYONE that moves into your area.
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The following situations will grant a free attack, as long as the reacting character is adjacent to the acting enemy:
• If the enemy makes a ranged attack. If the free attack causes damage, the ranged attack fails.
• If the enemy casts a spell. If the free attack causes damage, the caster must make a Persistence test or the spell fails.
• If the enemy readies a weapon. If the free attack causes damage, the enemy must make a Dodge test or drop the weapon instead of readying it.
• If the enemy stands from prone. If the free attack causes damage, the enemy must make an Athletics test or remain prone.
• If the enemy moves away from the character without using the Fighting Retreat Combat Action. If the free attack causes damage, the enemy’s Movement for that particular move is halved.
• If the enemy moves adjacent to the character without using the Charge Combat Action (which must be targeted at the character). This includes enemies who move through an adjacent area to the character en route to a further destination.• If the enemy leaves himself open for a Riposte.
Free attacks are always single close combat attacks – they may not be charges, flurries or precise attacks. Enemies may parry or dodge free attacks with Reactions as normal.
Ohh...and as for backing up: Your right, thats a feasable thing to do. So what? You loose an Action. He follows - you use a Reaction to Attack. He Attacks, and you use a Reaction to Parry. What do you do then? Back up again? That uses an action...
All you're doing is trading in your Actions for Reactions...nothing gained. Except that you lost a bunch of ground, and are now further away from your friends...
Q...
weasel_fierce
Mongoose
There's no particular rules for facing, that I recall.
I'd permit a charge at any distance, as long as you have a straight line. I took the "5 meters" as indicating that you must be capable of moving at least 5 meters, so a heavily encumbered character is unable to charge, f.x.
Of course, if he takes the free attack, he's down one reaction, which can be bad, in a group combat
I'd permit a charge at any distance, as long as you have a straight line. I took the "5 meters" as indicating that you must be capable of moving at least 5 meters, so a heavily encumbered character is unable to charge, f.x.
Of course, if he takes the free attack, he's down one reaction, which can be bad, in a group combat
Quintus said:
Whatever that is supposed to mean.
Quintus said:
Dude, if you want to let guys take free attacks against people who close with them from behind feel free to.
Quintus said:
Try thinking before you spew and you will see you are very mistaken. If two combatants have the same number of CA's, and there is nothing stopping one from continously backing up, the attacker will never get a hit off. He uses all his Actions to close. The Defender uses his Reactions to Attack, and His Actions to back up. The "Attacker" or "Closer" never gets to roll an attack because he uses all his actions to close.
Obviously, if the one pressing the attack has more Actions, or there is some obstruction to the defender backing up, this won't work.
Now that you have another piece of broken rules to threadcrap with why don't you take this tidbit to every thread anyone posts to and make sure they know about this evidence that MRQ sucks? Such behavior obviously isn't get old for you, though it is for me.
weasel_fierce
Mongoose
Actually, you could just rename the "fighting withdrawal" action, and use that. "cautious move" or some such (I believe thats how it works in Warhammer). Move at half speed, and no free attacks are suffered.
I think I'll do it like this instead (slightly more complicated but makes more sense):
Charging causes a Free Attack from every adjacent opponent who has a weapon longer than yours.
Closing to fighting distance with an enemy never causes a Free Attack but if your weapon is shorter than your opponent's it will require an opposed weapon skill vs. weapon skill roll and if you lose you get to approach only to just within your opponent's reach.
Charging causes a Free Attack from every adjacent opponent who has a weapon longer than yours.
Closing to fighting distance with an enemy never causes a Free Attack but if your weapon is shorter than your opponent's it will require an opposed weapon skill vs. weapon skill roll and if you lose you get to approach only to just within your opponent's reach.
