Burst and Machine Pistols

[badpixie]

What is the point? Burst gives +2 damage but is then -2 to hit and hence effect/ damage. Or fire single shot with no penalty and hence gain a +2 effect over firing in Burst (and hence +2 more damage). Burst is actually worse than single shot - the net damage is the same but you are -2 to hit.

 

[Ol'Weedy]

Not sure where your numbers are coming from...
From the Core Rulebook:

Burst: Add the Auto score to damage. This uses a
number of rounds equal to the Auto score.

So Auto4 will give +4 damage....and where did you get the -2 to hit?
Don't have access to the Field Manual, so not sure if it's in there...

 

[badpixie]

Not sure where your numbers are coming from...
From the Core Rulebook:

Burst: Add the Auto score to damage. This uses a
number of rounds equal to the Auto score.

So Auto4 will give +4 damage....and where did you get the -2 to hit?
Don't have access to the Field Manual, so not sure if it's in there...

-2 to hit is in the description of the machine pistol, which is actually Auto 2 not Auto 4.

 

[Varulv]

-2 to hit is in the description of the machine pistol, which is actually Auto 2 not Auto 4.

Where can I find the machine pistol?

 

[Bill Sheil]

Is this Traveller or Paranoia is the first question? There are dedicated forums for each of these.

 

[Varulv]

Is this Traveller or Paranoia is the first question? There are dedicated forums for each of these.

Good question. I presumed Traveller, but I can't recall seeing a machine pistol there.

 

[badpixie]

CSCU Update Assault Pistol pp. 143:

"An autopistol designed to fire bursts of fully-automaticf ire, assault pistols are notoriously inaccurate and suffer DM-2 to all attack rolls when using burst or full auto modes. Users are advised to carry as many extra magazines as they can as the assault pistol burns ammunition very quickly"

 

[Vormaerin]

Yeah, it is a terrible weapon. Its sole value is in spray n pray with full auto mode. You *can* burst fire with it, but that's a bad decision.

 

[Jongar]

For Bursting I was going to House Rule it that when you burst effect is not added to damage but for every 2-3 points of effect an additional round hits, up to the Burst rating.

 

[WHULorigan]

For Bursting I was going to House Rule it that when you burst effect is not added to damage but for every 2-3 points of effect an additional round hits, up to the Burst rating.

Could high Strength act as a positive DM To hit?

 

[Condottiere]

Treat them like shotguns.

 

[Jongar]

I agree that Str seems more relevant than Dex.

 

[Vormaerin]

Drifting on back to Classic Traveller, where weapons had STR requirements and Dex benefits....

 

[Jongar]

Also takes some of the shine off the Dex attribute and gives to Str.

 

[PogoLeaf]

Controversial point, burst should be added to hit, not damage

 

[Sigtrygg]

If you are hit with three bullets it causes more damage than being hit by one.

You are also more likely to be hit by at least one of the bullets.

 

[Condottiere]

Option, double tap damage, or beaten zone dispersal.

 

[swordtart]

Personally, I rule the +1 damage for burst is per damage dice. That would more than offset the -2 damage you would loose from any lower effect number.