captainsmirk
Mongoose
Mr Evil said:
Based on funding levels I seriously doubt that we will ever see that occur...
Plus its not really necessary.
Nick
British light infantry
- Thread starter Mr Evil
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Based on funding levels I seriously doubt that we will ever see that occur...
Plus its not really necessary.
Nick
Lorcan Nagle
Mongoose
cordas said:
too late.
captainsmirk said:
not now their switching to LSW's but as an upgrade on the standard infantry SA80 its cost effective as their sourcing the funding from droping the morter option, costs alone for training are about half as much. there is a huge reshuffle in the british army at the moment, so much so the cost saving will allow us a few more than projected Challys, obvously we wont get them as alot of the money will be eaten up with paper shifters and backhanders, but underslung GLs on most standard SA80's (wich now arnt that many compared to lsw's) that will be inservise in th future will be a common sight some say. as doubling the order nearly halves the price so for a little more they get a ton more.
but the pont is a standard SA80 wont be common in the future unless it has a TA guy behind it or a underslunge Gl underneith it, as the LSW is now become a very popular and attracive option due to range, reliability (barrel doesnt overheat) every where an SA80 in standard configeration will be needed so will a GL ie urban conflicts, so it makes sence realy.
**note im omiting the tank crew SA80 as this is a defnsive weapon and so doent have any reason financialy to have a GL slamed to it, and due to its cut down nature one might not evan fit any way.**
trouble in games with ofboard artilery is there is rarly a way to counter it, ie you cant assualt it, you cant have guys back there on a sabotage mission and you cant airstrike it, thats why of board bombardments are so devistating. they can dish it out and never get any disadvantage for doing so.
emperorpenguin
Mongoose
Hey Evil i went out and bought that magazine
:shock: that's a LOT of firepower! These guys are the Irish Guards just in a light role, not The Rifles as I was expecting.
There's also a good piece on the Steyr AUG, Slovak anti-terror unit (which is cool because my gf is Slovak) and stuff about the Irish guards training for Iraq
:shock: that's a LOT of firepower! These guys are the Irish Guards just in a light role, not The Rifles as I was expecting.
There's also a good piece on the Steyr AUG, Slovak anti-terror unit (which is cool because my gf is Slovak) and stuff about the Irish guards training for Iraq
The section organisation you list is much less a light infantry formation than a heavy infantry one. Not sure about that, but ok. 3 LSWs that's a lot more long range fire power which is not necessarily what you want in urban combat. Maybe useful in Afghanistan or fighting off Ivan on the plains in north Germany, but not so much in peacekeeping or in Basra.
The problem with the LSWs was being actually able to keep up a sustained rate of fire. That's the whole reason why they were swapped out for the Minimi. Introducing the 40mm and taking out the 51mm increases the firepower available. Adding a 7.62mm MG at that level is interesting.... Nominally all heavier weapons, MGs, Javelins, MILANs etc.. are grouped in the appropriate platoon at company or battalion level. In reality units being deployed would try and take as much possible and depending on the scenario distributed downwards.
It would be nice to see individual figures, but I doubt that a LSW would radically alter things.
The problem with the LSWs was being actually able to keep up a sustained rate of fire. That's the whole reason why they were swapped out for the Minimi. Introducing the 40mm and taking out the 51mm increases the firepower available. Adding a 7.62mm MG at that level is interesting.... Nominally all heavier weapons, MGs, Javelins, MILANs etc.. are grouped in the appropriate platoon at company or battalion level. In reality units being deployed would try and take as much possible and depending on the scenario distributed downwards.
It would be nice to see individual figures, but I doubt that a LSW would radically alter things.
thats why the standard SA80 is being equiped with a GL for urban conflicts, all the LSW is, is a SA80A2 but with a heavier longer barrel and a bipod uses the same rounds and clips as a standard, the barrel allows the rate of fire to stay constant for long periods of time, while a standard SA80A2 can empty about 2 mags and has to cool down, the bipod stability and longer barrel on then LSW allows the longer range to be achieved and less cool down time.
3 for urban SA80A2 with UGL
or
3 for open ground SA80A2 LSW
or a mix of the above over the 3 men and posably one of the NCO's
2 NCO's SA80A2 with UGL
2 minimi's
1 GPMG
thats the future plan for the brit light infantry, obvously what we have now on the table top is a generic EFT squad thats not that british it feels.
im trying to source at the mo what basis the current generic eft brits are based on, if any body gets a wif let us know, be interesting. maybe their based on mechanised infantry or gurka load out, im not sure.
3 for urban SA80A2 with UGL
or
3 for open ground SA80A2 LSW
or a mix of the above over the 3 men and posably one of the NCO's
2 NCO's SA80A2 with UGL
2 minimi's
1 GPMG
thats the future plan for the brit light infantry, obvously what we have now on the table top is a generic EFT squad thats not that british it feels.
im trying to source at the mo what basis the current generic eft brits are based on, if any body gets a wif let us know, be interesting. maybe their based on mechanised infantry or gurka load out, im not sure.
emperorpenguin
Mongoose
Jellicoe said:
maybe not (though it would differentiate the British and Americans) but it is more a case of a standard section weapon that was inexplicably omitted
Lorcan Nagle
Mongoose
cordas said:
There's plenty of limitations on arty in Evo thankfully - you pay a chunk of points per individual barrage, not per battery, and you have to have a command section on the board to call the shots down, spending a ready acton to do it each time.
Lorcan Nagle said:
Does this stop the command section from giving a 3rd action? If so then thats a valid restriction, but otherwise well no deal, I tend to put my command section into cover and leave them there for the rest of the game (unless forced to move them, but not had that happen yet).
Making it a one shot does help, but I would imagine it makes it accurate otherwise its not worth the points.
Lorcan Nagle
Mongoose
No counterbattery fire. A command unit can still give the third action if they call in arty, but it does mean they're doing less themselves. Also, they have to have LOS to the target. And if the dice are against you and you're dropping in an area with lots of models, then there's every chance of a round hitting your own forces.
My command team tend to do nothing so that ain't an issue, but bringing them into LOS is.... mind you there is nothing to stop them using the 3rd action themselves to move into LOS ready (call artillery in) then use 3rd action to scarper back to safety.
If the dice are against you, they are against you and nothing will help (well this will make the pain more but over quicker).
I dunno it sounds now that they might have toned it down to far... So that its useless..... Well might be good for PLA to give them some extra tank killing effect.... I suppose I will jsut have to wait until we get the main rule book itself (or someone to post the entire rules and points cost).
If the dice are against you, they are against you and nothing will help (well this will make the pain more but over quicker).
I dunno it sounds now that they might have toned it down to far... So that its useless..... Well might be good for PLA to give them some extra tank killing effect.... I suppose I will jsut have to wait until we get the main rule book itself (or someone to post the entire rules and points cost).
Lorcan Nagle
Mongoose
The rules say command unit.
