Blood of Orlanth

[Sinisalo]

Just got it today. Read about 20 pages and I can tell you i'm impressed. I cant understand why people aren't raving about just how good it is.

However spotted one error...sorry every masterpiece has a flaw....you can't use dragon magic and divine magic according to page 27 of Glorantha 2nd Age. You either be a wyrms face believer and draconised theist cultist and get draconic illumination and divine magic, or go up the ranks of Wyrms' Friendism and get dragon magic, dropping your divine magic.

I actually prefer it when you can have both, it fleshes out the draconised theist faiths. Anyway, so far a cracking good read and reminds me a bit of the quality warhammer frp stuff crossed with a Call of Cthulhu plot.

 

[Rurik]

I cant understand why people aren't raving about just how good it is.

Cause on my side of the Pond I can't even order it yet.

 

[Tal]

I cant understand why people aren't raving about just how good it is.

Cause on my side of the Pond I can't even order it yet.

If your in the us you can get it from FRP games it is up as in stock which means other stores should be getting it soon.

 

[Sinisalo]

Did I say it is good? Read another 20 pages and enjoyed them as well!

However....you're not going to get summary justice in that culture, it's not feudal. Can you give a copy of King of Sartar to the writer when he writes the next one? All the basics of justice are in there. Please don't take this as a criticism a slight niggle doesn't reduce the quality one bit. Top notch. Everyone should buy this one and I reckon you could easily convert it to 3rd Age as well.

 

[soltakss]

Don't forget, though, that the Holy Country Heortlings turned their back on the New Ways and reverted back to many Old Ways after the Dragonkill. Also, after the Pharoah came a-calling, some of the Heortling clans went to Dragon Pass in search of an even more traditional lifestyle/culture. So they went even further back to the Old Ways.

So, the Orlanthi of the Second Age could well have a different culture to those described in Blood of Orlanth (I haven't seen it, so I couldn't say for sure).

 

[Rurik]

So, the Orlanthi of the Second Age could well have a different culture to those described in Blood of Orlanth (I haven't seen it, so I couldn't say for sure).

Not risking anymore MRQ purchases while the wife is quitting smoking then?

 

[soltakss]

So, the Orlanthi of the Second Age could well have a different culture to those described in Blood of Orlanth (I haven't seen it, so I couldn't say for sure).

Not risking anymore MRQ purchases while the wife is quitting smoking then?

I can't afford it at the moment - damn those post-Christmas finances. We've booked up a place at Tentacles (German RPG Convention) and the air fare has cleaned us out this month.

It's possible that I might get it in February or March. I've got some Christmas money (better than presents) but I'm not sure whether to buy RPG books or a USB Disk Drive. Decisions, decisions.

But it's PayDay tomorrow, so who knows?

 

[Sinisalo]

So, the Orlanthi of the Second Age could well have a different culture to those described in Blood of Orlanth (I haven't seen it, so I couldn't say for sure).

I thought clan law came wholly from Heort but apparently some comes from Sartar the hero as well. I'm not clear just how old the plaintiff/juror/court think is or whether that was the bit Sartar added. Saying that, though King of Dragon Pass had justice and that was before Sartar.

If I wasn't blacklisted from World of Glorantha I'd ask there . Has the Glorantha Digest died a death? Cant find it anymore.

As for getting the credit card out and buying it on the sly, I'd say yes. The way I get them past my wife is to leave one next to the bed and swap it when I get a new one. She doesn't spot the difference and thinks I'm still reading the same one.

I'm having trouble comparing this book. It's very similar to two of my very favourite frp books. I'm trying not to say which ones cause the writer might get a big head.

 

[Voriof]

I thought clan law came wholly from Heort but apparently some comes from Sartar the hero as well. I'm not clear just how old the plaintiff/juror/court think is or whether that was the bit Sartar added. Saying that, though King of Dragon Pass had justice and that was before Sartar.

Justice and Law are not the same things. The Orlanthi have had Justice for a long while. Law tends to ebb and flow depending on how well integrated society is. As far as I know, the court/juror system of jurisprudence became common during the second age as the Heortlanders (as opposed to the more wide-spread Heortlings) became more influenced by Western thoughts.

Considering the population, the older tribal and clan based systems of law probably had stopped working terribly well (think Iceland cira Burned Njall) and something else was tried.

Jeff

 

[duncan_disorderly]

Has the Glorantha Digest died a death? Cant find it anymore.

Yes, around the time World of Glorantha started. I think Graeme was offered the chance to host WoG, or to make the Digest the official list, but, for whatever reason, declined. Since the remit of the WoG list pretty much duplicated the GD, the latter then appeared to be redundant. It's a shame we lost it, and I can't help feeling that there was a degree of misunderstanding or miscommunication involved that, had it been avoided would have been better for all of us, but that is all in the past.

There are archives from September 2000 to July 2007 here

 

[soltakss]

If I wasn't blacklisted from World of Glorantha I'd ask there .

How did you manage that? They are very open and inclusive. You must be an evil spammer or have insulted someone, neither opf which I can believe.

Ask Triff/Banned Beetle for advice on how to get back on lists without being noticed.

Has the Glorantha Digest died a death? Cant find it anymore.

Yes, which is a shame.

World of Glorantha started up but was quite heavily tied into Issaries. Graham was asked to take it over but he didn't want to for a number of reasons.

The Gloranthan Digest limped along for a while, but then Graham pulled out of all things Gloranthan and stopped hosting all the Forums that he hosted for free.

He is now happily helping rescued greyhounds and feels far more satisfaction from that than from Glorantha, which is fair enough.

 

[soltakss]

I'm having trouble comparing this book. It's very similar to two of my very favourite frp books. I'm trying not to say which ones cause the writer might get a big head.

Compare away! Big heads can be easily popped.

Seriously, it's always nice for those of us who haven't bought supplements to see what other people compare it to.

If you compare it to Griffin Mountain that says one thing, if you compare it to Daughters of Darkness it says another.

If your favourite RPG supplements were Daughters of Darkness and Lost City of Eldorad then your recommendation might carry a bit less weight.

 

[Mongoose Gar]

However....you're not going to get summary justice in that culture, it's not feudal.

Which bit are you referring to? The only section I can think of offhand that involves law and justice. is the EWF episode where the characters are made sit in judgement in captured Orlanthi territory.

Anyway, I'm happy you're liking it. It was a blast to write.

 

[Sinisalo]

However....you're not going to get summary justice in that culture, it's not feudal.

Which bit are you referring to? The only section I can think of offhand that involves law and justice. is the EWF episode where the characters are made sit in judgement in captured Orlanthi territory.

Page 45 The Second Council of Thandor. I'm trying not to spoil anyone's fun by describing it. The guy doing the judging is only a Thane and not even a chief. Don't get me wrong, it makes absolute narrative sense but if I was playing I'd immediately demand to see the Chief, tell my story to a juror and demand to be judged in front of the whole clan. But that's because I'm an Orlanthi nerd. I also realise this is in the noobie phase at the beginning where we're all working out what to do.

Anyway, I'm happy you're liking it. It was a blast to write.

I can see it was a blast. You should be congratulated. I didn't expect anything any good. Have you written any other scenario packs before?

 

[Sinisalo]

If you compare it to Griffin Mountain that says one thing, if you compare it to Daughters of Darkness it says another.

Part Death on the Reik (Warhammer FRP), part Perilous Forest (Pendragon), part Grand Theft Auto 3 (Playstation 2). I don't know whether people like these three but I rate them highly.

As for World of Glorantha (I don't like its acronym) I've tried three times to get messages posted and nothing. I had a spat with the Hero Wars list moderator about F_I_V_E Y_E_A_R_S A_G_O, so I expect thats it. I was a bit of a twat to be honest and it just goes to show how alcohol and bulletin boards don't mix.

 

[Voriof]

Would that have been me, perhaps?

I would point out that WoG is moderated for new posters and that I have approved every message that comes in - aside from a surprisingly endless number of WoW Gold-farming adverts. When did you try and post?

I hadn't noticed anyone in particular on the bannination list at WoG, which has a small list mostly filled with spammers. The list is owned by Rick Meints with Roderick Robertson and myself as moderators.

Jeff

 

[Mongoose Gar]

Page 45 The Second Council of Thandor. I'm trying not to spoil anyone's fun by describing it. The guy doing the judging is only a Thane and not even a chief. Don't get me wrong, it makes absolute narrative sense but if I was playing I'd immediately demand to see the Chief, tell my story to a juror and demand to be judged in front of the whole clan. But that's because I'm an Orlanthi nerd. I also realise this is in the noobie phase at the beginning where we're all working out what to do.?

Ah, right. Well, Thandor's rich and egotistical enough to act like a chieftain, and Aeldred's too passive most of the time to argue with him. If anyone makes a fuss, then yeah, they'd be within their rights to head down to Solthmouth.

 

[Mongoose Gar]

Have you written any other scenario packs before?

The Ragged Edge for Babylon 5, and Secrets of Tragic Europe for Hawkmoon.

 

[soltakss]

Well, I had money burning in my pocket on Pay Day and I bought Blood of Orlanth. The flesh was weak and I derderve to be punished. Fortunately, I'm married so punishment is never far away.

I'm going through it at the moment and it looks good. Lots of myth fragments, lots of descriptions and lots of locations. It might be a bit much for players to take it all in, though.

Good stuff.

If only we could have more scenario packs ......

(Never satisfied, me)

 

[zozotroll]

Now if only that dude in the row boat in the mid atlantic would get back to the oars instead of the Tetleys