Advanced education

I hadn't thought to check T5 on that one. Naturally, it rates each EDU value as a particular level of education. Bachelor at 8, Doctorate at 12. So my thoughts were close enough. And I guess the 8+ for advanced education does line up with that, so I'm more than happy to go with the T5 thresholds.
 
Yeah - I'm very much thinking about advanced education rather than training - PhD (in a science or academic subject), MBA, Law school, etc.

Oh, fab - I don't have volume three, and will take a look.

Yes, very much thinking that starting a PhD gets you Admin 0, and successfully completing the programme of study and defending your thesis gets you Admin 1 and Persuade 1, in addition to Science (X) and EDU uplifts. Plus some practical skills from lab work or field trips.
Persuade doesn't feel right. It reads as the ability to take advantage of someone rather than a formal presentation of a superior argument. The oratory and debate aspects of Advocate seem more appropriate. It is a shame it was tied to interstellar law (rather than maybe having specialisations for that sort of thing).

Admin seems very appropriate.

I am not sure all further education necessarily provides and EDU increase. Despite the name it is not really education but represents the ability to recall and leverage knowledge. You could have a high EDU score with no formal education and you could equally have a low score with it. I have known plenty of post-grads who immediately flounder in the workplace as they lack the ability to apply their knowledge in real world situations. They are clearly smart and can recall facts, but cannot solve problems.

Also you can add your EDU bonus to many skill checks not just for the subject you did post grad study on. Whilst some study techniques are imparted during graduate and postgraduate education, most of the time in my experience was cramming subject specific information and learning exam technique.
 
I hadn't thought to check T5 on that one. Naturally, it rates each EDU value as a particular level of education. Bachelor at 8, Doctorate at 12. So my thoughts were close enough. And I guess the 8+ for advanced education does line up with that, so I'm more than happy to go with the T5 thresholds.

Of course, those scores need only refer to having the equivalent level of knowledge of a specified degree, not necessarily the actual earned degree itself (or alternatively, the equivalent level that one should have for a given degree). That leaves open the possibility of simply well-rounded and well-read individuals and autodidacts over a wide range of subjects, as well as those who "got thru a degree program" but still leave something to be desired. It also could refer to those who have multiple earned lesser degrees rather than a single Higher Degree, such as dual Bachelor's and dual Master's Degrees instead of a single Doctoral Degree.

But it does rather imply that if one does have an earned degree that they should at least be no less than a point (or two at the most) of the said EDU value.

But thing to remember about making EDU rolls is that they represent an appeal to the pool of a person's broad generalized knowledge as opposed to their specialized specific (trained) skills.
 
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Yes. For any actual character to have an actual award is basically up to the player and the referee, aside from the specific example of graduating pre-career education.

Though even with that, the actual earned qualification could be expressed as many things. A bachelor degree in Economics with honours; a 5th degree academic rank (female) under the Aslan tradition; a sub-Master of Divinity indulgence in the World Church of Floob.
 
Yes. For any actual character to have an actual award is basically up to the player and the referee, aside from the specific example of graduating pre-career education.

Though even with that, the actual earned qualification could be expressed as many things. A bachelor degree in Economics with honours; a 5th degree academic rank (female) under the Aslan tradition; a sub-Master of Divinity indulgence in the World Church of Floob.
Didn't they have something like this in the Cosmopolite book?
 
Never had that one, so I can't say.

There are real world examples of people having attained doctorates by age 18, so pegging that possibility to EDU 12 does seem pretty fair. In the Far Future, I expect the actual number of those probably outnumbers the numbers of Barons, just as it does now...

An old NPC of mine - Doctor Robot - on the other hand had extremely suspect qualifications.
 
My best doctor character was a Vargr. Excellent ship's surgeon. Had to convince people he wasn't going to eat their liver while they were out for surgery...
 
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