What can I expect with Elric?

tarkhan bey said:
Loz,
Is there going to be separate styles of magic as there were previously?(Western/YK sorcerors and those from the Unknown East)
Will there be rules for your aforementioned Dream thiefing?
Did you ever get around to doing Atlases for the other continents and islands,and if so,are we likely to see them in print?(Atlas of the Young Kingdom's,The Northern Continent was an amazing piece of work.)
There are certain things,persons and places that were part of the Chaosium imagining of the setting eg Cardinal Garrick and the Unchanging Nine gods of Law. Will these be reappearing in the new Mongoose edition,or is this a completely new take?

Yes... and no.

At present the new book concentrates on YK sorcery. Runes will find their way out sometime, and they're far more flexible than previous spell systems for EC games. Unknown East magic can be easily ported into the new game, although, as yet, there are no plans for a UE book (I'd like to revisit it though... do some stuff differently). The Atlas of the YK was Richard Watts' work with only a tiny, tiny bit (the Mereghn) from me, but yes, there are some parts of that included in the new version. You can quite easily use all that's gone before, background-wise, with this version.

By the way, I hope that your Tentacles game was a real blast. The characters sound like they were a very eclectic bunch indeed.
Following a several year hiatus(and an excellent Conan rpg campaign) my group have once again ventured into the Young Kingdoms and the Tragic Millenium.
I still have two of my old players on board and the chance for them to once again become Nalkor Zakstrassin(The Eternal Optimist) and Aladahn Zain the (Thin White) Duke of Bromlee was eagerly grasped by both.

Thanks - it was! And I love the idea of The Eternal Optimist! Very cool.
 
Ah yes, of course the Atlas was Richard Watt. Sorry bout that Loz,Nalkor has recently borrowed my copy and I got you guys confused.
However, the stuff which actually was yours is excellent also. The scenario "Book of Brilliant Things" is my favourite, especially the background conflict between Maluk and Darnizhaan and the fact that the characters will probably never know that they have just been instrumental in deciding the fate of the YK. 8)
Will any of this previous stuff be reissued under the Mongoose license or can we expect a whole new range of material?
Also, I know that Gareth is in charge of the Hawkmoon line but is your work on the Chaosium Monograph in the mix for the background material?
Finally Gareth and Loz, is there going to be a new look at Amarekh in the near future and will there finally be a definitive view of Asia Communista?
 
tarkhan bey said:
Will any of this previous stuff be reissued under the Mongoose license or can we expect a whole new range of material?
Also, I know that Gareth is in charge of the Hawkmoon line but is your work on the Chaosium Monograph in the mix for the background material?
Finally Gareth and Loz, is there going to be a new look at Amarekh in the near future and will there finally be a definitive view of Asia Communista?

It's reasonable to expect new material.

I can't really answer for Gar on Hawkmoon, but he used the monograph whilst writing the book and there are some bits and pieces in the new book. They're different beasts though.
 
@Loz
What can be expected with Elric over the next year with regard to releases: background material? GM screen? Scenario books? etc..?
 
Mage said:
@Loz
What can be expected with Elric over the next year with regard to releases: background material? GM screen? Scenario books? etc..?

I honestly don't know. That's a decision that's likely to be commercially driven. Beyond Charles Green's terrific 'Bright Shadows of Melnibone' there are no plans I'm aware of.

But clearly I'm keen to do more. Much more.
 
Mage said:
Well, if you had your wishlist of projects you could do for it, what would they be?

Ah, that's a question I won't answer. The wishlist is long and probably dovetails with what many would like to see. But if I start making a public list, that could raise expectations, and I really don't want to do that.

I understand your eagerness - I really do - but I'll have to leave such speculation to others.
 
Mage said:
I am reading it write now in 'chronological' order and am loving it. Just wanted to know how the RPG would be different, and is good so far.

The absolute best thing about the early Elric books is that you could read one in a day if you went at it hard.

Mage said:
I've started on 'Elric of Melnibone', and the book also contains 'The Fortress of the Pearl', 'The Sailor on the Seas of Fate', 'The Dreaming City', 'While the Gods Laugh' and 'The Singing Citadel'.

Pretty good choices. Elric at the End of Time is absolutely hilarious, not the normal Elric story, though.

Of all the Elric stories, the section that really stood out as a teenager reading it was one scene where Elric was in a torture chamber asking questions of the torturer who was casually talking and going about his business, when he took a knife, twisted it between a man's legs and threw a lump of flesh into the fire, as the tortured person groaned. I thought it was so understated and such a casual, matter-of-fact description that it really struck a nerve.

That's what the Elric books are about. Casual cruelty, a decaying empire, a mad sword and a man who destroys everything he loves. Despite that and despite the fact that they know he will kill them, he is surrounded by companions who help him even though they know they are doomed by him. Dark fantasy at its very best.

Mage said:
I like it so far, but hope to God that the movie is not cack.

Which brings me to my last question:

Why in all things holy have I only heard of Elric in the last year and never seen it in a bookshop until just a few months ago? Why is there some crap fantasy out there that is critically accalimed but really unoriginal Politically Correct Excrement, and getting more attention than Moorcock?

I started reading it in the seventies, when I was a teenager. Back in those days, you could buy a paperback for 50p or something, so I could get a book every week with my pocket money. They had pretty much two shelves back then devoted to the various Moorcock books, Elric, Corum, Cornelius, End of Time, Hawkmoon and the other one-offs (Von Bek really came later). He seemed to go out of fashion in the late eighties until you hardly saw anything any more. Then they brought out compendiums that were good if you didn't have most of the books. Von Bek had a few books, so did Colonel Pyatt and a gew new Elric books, but I didn't think they were as exciting as the earlier ones. Recently, they went completely out of fashion, so you hardly saw the compendiums, which is a great shame.

Hopefully a new generation can rediscover Elric and the other Moorcock books.

[Spoiler Alert]
The different Eternal Champion stories had links that were perhaps real, perhaps imaginary. So, Elric and Corum both had Arioch, but Corum killed him. Elric had Stormbringer but Corum turned the black Sword down. Elric At the End of Time had Arioch, after a fashion, perhaps it was the same Arioch in different places. Cornelius had everything and went everywhere and did everything. Elric had a lost love, doomed by his actions. Cornelius had a lost love, doomed by his actions, but she was his sister.
[End of Spoiler]

I went back and reread the Elric series last year and they are as good as they ever were, so it wasn't just a teenager's excitement over something different.

So, yes, read the Elric books. If you liked the Fantasy side then read Corum. If you liked them for the weirdness then read Cornelius. If you liked Elric at the End of Time then read the End of Time series. If you liked some of those then read Hawkmoon. If you liked the history style of the Von Bek stories then read the Colonel Pyatt ones. If you liked Cornelius then read Mother London, although it isn't fantasy of the same type as the Cornelius stories. If you liked all of those, then your taste must be fine.
 
Well, first I read the Warhound & the World's Pain. I had trouble digesting the second Von bek story, the city in the uatumn stars or something, but so far with Elric its good. I'll try to get aroud them all eventually.

Its cool to see some stuf carries over into different books (like Arioch).
 
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