Solomani are missing Uplifted species

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

They don't want you to study this as theri narrative falls apart.

Who are "they" and what is their motivation?

 

[actionman]

Just as a note, some placental mammals can put foetuses on hold, e.g. alpacas.

Well that would suck. "Your mother is too busy to keep developing you, please hold."

 

[Sigtrygg]

Except it doesn't say Homo Sapiens is that million years old. It says that the split in the LINEAGE that led to Neandethal on one side and Sapiens on the other was ~1 million years ago.

The split between neanderthal and sapiens was up to 1 million years ago, therefore sapiens appears...

"New research argues that the age of the skull suggests that the split between our lineage and that of Neanderthals and Denisovans may have happened at least half a million years earlier than previously thought."

Our lineage is sapiens.

The split occurred but it was still an earlier form which took 100s of thousands of years to become Neanderthal and Denisovan on one branch and Sapiens on the other.

Not sure how you are getting that conclusion, the split occured from which neanderthals and denisovans came from one branch of the split and sapiens from the other, which pushes sapiens back up to a million years and also falsifies the out of africa hypotheseis.

 

[actionman]

Who are "they" and what is their motivation?

Talking about that is a one way low passage to ban land, and most people are not emotionally ready or able to resist their conditioning enough to have that discussion. It's also a lot of difficult reading and hours of video watching of subject matter that conflicts with narratives most people have been emotionally conditioned to accept as unquestionable fact. It takes time to do that, time to come to terms with it, and it is not pleasant.

The allegory of Plato's Cave is highly relevant.

It can't even be approached without a political discussion, and even if there were no forum rules, that discussion and the related discussions it would spawn would do nothing but make people angry with each other.

 

[actionman]

the thing is we have no evidence of human civilisations frior to the last ice age

We do, but there's not much of it. The younger dryas was an extremely destructive event. The Richat Structure in Mauritania was scoured down to the bedrock. The best I can think of off the cuff is Dwarka, Gobekli Tepe, and the Sphinx.

nature very quickly destroys evidence, now add world wide catastrophic events and little evidence remains after thousands of years.

Very true. And much of the remaining evidence is reused by later civilizations. In the Greek stories about Atlantis, the Egyptian priests who talked to the Greek historians, (Solon, Herodotus?) mentioned cycles of cataclysmic destruction, of which the Greeks remembered only one.

They don't want you to study this as their narrative falls apart.

Sphinx erosion patterns.

Solutreans.

or could it be the genetic bottleneck of the 74,000 year ago Toba eruption is proof of a civilisation ending catastrophe? Rebuilding from then until the catastrophe at the younger dryas, whatever it was. The start again 12,000 years ago...

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

Not sure how you are getting that conclusion, the split occured from which neanderthals and denisovans came from one branch of the split and sapiens from the other, which pushes sapiens back up to a million years and also falsifies the out of africa hypotheseis.

Two being the relevant one below. If you look at the skull with the LARGE BROW RIDGES that is supposed to be that ancestor to Sapiens it is visibly a different species. Sapiens doesn't have those brow ridges. Our ANCESTOR species still had them.

lin·e·age /ˈlīnij/

noun
noun: lineage; plural noun: lineages

1. 1.
   lineal descent from an ancestor; ancestry or pedigree.
   "a Dutch nobleman of ancient lineage"
   
   
   • Anthropology
     a social group tracing its descent from a single ancestor.
   
   2.
   Biology
   a sequence of species each of which is considered to have evolved from its predecessor.

 

[actionman]

Sapiens doesn't have those brow ridges. Our ANCESTOR species still had them.

Other hominids didn't have anatomically distinct chins. Then sapiens did.

 

[actionman]

the Mayan city discovered in Guatemala

There was a great book about a hidden ancient city in Honduras called The Lost City of the Monkey God (same city?). As ancient cities go, it was pretty huge. When people stopped living there, the jungle quickly reclaimed it. They mapped it with LIDAR then sent in robust expeditions. The city was very well preserved because it's in one of the deadliest jungles in Central America.

The Lost City of the Monkey God - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

Other hominids didn't have anatomically distinct chins. Then sapiens did.

Which is more or less the point. He is taking an ANCESTRAL species that has clear distinctive anatomical differences and saying its existence 1 MILLION years ago means Homo Sapiens was existing that long ago. A different ancestral species existed then. A very similar (to Sapiens) but not identical ancestral species came into being about 300,000 years ago and is usually considered the beginning of modern humans. He is misinterpreting the facts to be what he wants them to be.

Not to mention China has for a long time been trying to prove that they are the birthplace of Sapiens. This alone is good reason to question it until others can study and confirm independently. Setting out to prove something you decided based on your desires is not good science. Setting out to find out IF what you want to be true is true can be good science if you keep your biases in check, if you can't let someone else do that research.

Just like some British scientists fell for Piltdown man because they WANTED to believe their homeland was the very beginning of humanity. Others fell for Nebraska man because they wanted it to be the U.S.. Me, I'd be shocked if my homeland was the birthplace as there has never been any sign of pre Homo Sapiens here. I'd immediately be questioning it.

 

[rinku]

As well, it's REALLY REALLY important to put our ignorance in context. The fossil record preserves almost nothing.

If it were considered to be an encyclopaedia, we have a few random volumes, which have all but a handful of pages missing, and on which most of the words are redacted. Usually, only a few letters of a word are legible.

Occasionally we find a phrase.

 

[Condottiere]

I tend to think parallel evolution, not necessarily independent from each other.

 

[Tom B]

Well that would suck. "Your mother is too busy to keep developing you, please hold."

We went Alpaca walking (I recommend it) and it was explained why but I can't remember the details. It is an evolutionary adaptation so the young is born and has the best chance of survival.