After running some playtests this weekend, and based on the responses from these threads...
Anti-Tank Guns V Tanks
German Crew Served Gun Errata
...we noticed an odd irony. In the Mongoose Rulebook, nearly all of the MMG and AT Gun, and some of the Mortar, HMG, and even LMG figures are shown modelled on Diorama bases, with the shooter and loader dynamically posed loading and/or firing the weapon on a large base.
After reviewing the sprues for most of the weapons on the Italeri, Revell, Airfix, Hasegawa, and the figs on the Bolt Action Miniatures websites, we observed that this is the way that most of those weapons are sold (gunner, loader, and often a third figure there to carry ammo or point at the enemy or some other thing).
However, in this game... based on the above threads, when the chap that has the weapon in his stat-line buys the farm, the weapon is gone. In other games that do this, that's no big deal. Most of the time you pay a flat cost for the bloke and some variable number of points for the weapon upgrade, and if the one with the gun buys the farm, you've only lost the upgraded guy. If you do a diorama, you're likely to at most need 1 more figure. But a "historical" set may have 3 or even 4 figures in it.
In this game, you (seem to) pay for all the dudes in the Asset option plus the weapon itself. If you choose to Model your figures in a Diorama, you're actually going to need to have additional figs on solo bases to take over if the gunner is dead, or you've wasted several fighters on a game where every figure counts (due to the bloody and fast-kill nature of it).
So basically... those that Model dioramas, which are some of the coolest figures on a WW2 gaming table, get hosed.
But I freely admit, maybe it's just me. It's my preference to model Dioramas and maybe I need to change the way I do things (breaking up all my gunner bases and stands) and basing them individually, or house rule things to allow dioramas to mark kills with tokens and leave the gunner for the last figure to buy the farm. (Allowing players who base on dioramas prior to playing their first game of WaW to not get hosed - i.e. forced to rebase or buy more figs to account for the rest of the Asset once the gunner is dead).
Anti-Tank Guns V Tanks
German Crew Served Gun Errata
...we noticed an odd irony. In the Mongoose Rulebook, nearly all of the MMG and AT Gun, and some of the Mortar, HMG, and even LMG figures are shown modelled on Diorama bases, with the shooter and loader dynamically posed loading and/or firing the weapon on a large base.
After reviewing the sprues for most of the weapons on the Italeri, Revell, Airfix, Hasegawa, and the figs on the Bolt Action Miniatures websites, we observed that this is the way that most of those weapons are sold (gunner, loader, and often a third figure there to carry ammo or point at the enemy or some other thing).
However, in this game... based on the above threads, when the chap that has the weapon in his stat-line buys the farm, the weapon is gone. In other games that do this, that's no big deal. Most of the time you pay a flat cost for the bloke and some variable number of points for the weapon upgrade, and if the one with the gun buys the farm, you've only lost the upgraded guy. If you do a diorama, you're likely to at most need 1 more figure. But a "historical" set may have 3 or even 4 figures in it.
In this game, you (seem to) pay for all the dudes in the Asset option plus the weapon itself. If you choose to Model your figures in a Diorama, you're actually going to need to have additional figs on solo bases to take over if the gunner is dead, or you've wasted several fighters on a game where every figure counts (due to the bloody and fast-kill nature of it).
So basically... those that Model dioramas, which are some of the coolest figures on a WW2 gaming table, get hosed.
But I freely admit, maybe it's just me. It's my preference to model Dioramas and maybe I need to change the way I do things (breaking up all my gunner bases and stands) and basing them individually, or house rule things to allow dioramas to mark kills with tokens and leave the gunner for the last figure to buy the farm. (Allowing players who base on dioramas prior to playing their first game of WaW to not get hosed - i.e. forced to rebase or buy more figs to account for the rest of the Asset once the gunner is dead).
