VaS at different scale?

[GrahamC]

Hey guys,

Have been thinking of playing a naval historical game, and was going to pick up Victory at Sea. My question is, how open to changing scale is it? I wanted to use some of the very nice Hasegawa and Tamiya 1/700 scale plastic kits with the game and wondered if any kind of conversion with scales/distances would be possible?

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Graham

 

[rcbecker1]

VAS works well with any scale so 1/700 would be fine. I find larger ships are better for smaller battles and smaller ships work better for really big battles. but that would be it on my part.

 

[AdrianH]

Option 1: accept the fact that a 1/700 scale model of a battleship will occupy a significant area of the table. (Yamato will be about 15" long, i.e. about 1/4 the length of a 6'x4' normal game table.)
Option 2: double all the ranges, speeds etc. and use a really big table, or possibly a floor if you watch where you put your feet.

 

[GrahamC]

Thankyou for the replies!

And yes I will hopefully be playing with a rather large expanse of ground as a battleground

 

[Myrm]

VaS is a point to point system, so really so long as the point is defined on the ship then scale should theoretically make little mechanical difference.

The only issue will be practical ones of ships having space to move, of overcrowding and a ground to model scale disconnect if the change is too big. These are easily dealt with by expanding the play area and measures as necessary.

 

[leopard]

Well, its mostly a point to point system, the only thing that isn't seems to be 'smoke', hopefully V2 will define the size of the smoke properly, and define it as from the centre of the model as well (not the tail) - thus removing the model scale from it - and making the smoke 'scale' properly as well.

Not to mongoose, if thats not in v2, at least defining the width and length of the smoke marker is probably very easy to add - people can scale it themselves without much work, dropping it from the measuring point may require a bit more work (making the marker larger and associated testing) but may also be worth a look?

 

[rcbecker1]

Smoke is a 1" x 3" area. I would adjust this for big models by doubling it in this case.

 

[leopard]

Oh I know the size of the counter, well I can measure it don't actually know it but you get the point.

No my point is the rules say to place a marker, the rules don't say how big that marker is while everything else is a single 'point' of no stated size.

Its a minor point though for re-scaling this sort of thing from the 1:1800 (not sure if thats stated in the rulebook either).

Just think that the dimensions of a marker that should be a specific size should be noted somewhere, if only for the flexibility to then have some units making larger or smaller smoke