Vacc Suit Use

[rust]

There is hard Science Fiction and there is the high Science Fiction.

By the way, I found this article on this subject quite interesting:
http://www.kheper.net/topics/scifi/grading.html

 

[CosmicGamer]

Well, back near topic - Vacc Suit skill mentions a -2 DM for each level of Vacc Suit skill missing 'for the suit he is wearing'...

• What is this is referring to?

• huh, where did you get this from?

 

[rust]

Vacc Suit skill mentions a -2 DM for each level of Vacc Suit skill missing 'for the suit he is wearing'

In the German version it reads "while he is wearing the suit".

 

[BP]

CosmicGamer - the quote is from Core pg 59. Perhaps I should have quoted more from the book -

• If the character does not have the requisite Vacc Suit skill for the suit he is wearing, he suffers a -2 DM to all skill checks made while wearing a suit for each missing level.

The redundant while wearing a suit should have been left out or at least changed to while wearing the suit (and apparently females don't suffer the same DM ).

To me this leaves several ambiguities and inconsistencies - i.e.:

• - when missing level 0, or no skill, the DM is -2 instead of -3?
  
  - skill is suit specific?
  
  - suits may be skill level dependent?
  
  - DM applies to tasks unrelated to suit/physical activities?

While one can ignore this rule, Vacc Suits can be very important in certain games (especially planetside) and situations (salvage, repair, decompression) - so clarification could be useful.

As an enjoyer of realism and flexibility in gaming - I also embrace KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) and 'special effects' (fiction/fantasy).

 

[Mawdrigen]

If he's wearing a suit he's not competent enough to run he's at -2 to every other action. If he's not competent on the thing he's DOING then I'd say that goes up to -5, -2 for the suit -3 for the incompetence.

If the thing he is doing is fiddling with his vacc suit.. well he deserves it

 

[rust]

If he's wearing a suit he's not competent enough to run he's at -2 to every other action. If he's not competent on the thing he's DOING then I'd say that goes up to -5, -2 for the suit -3 for the incompetence.

Yes, I would handle it the same way.

 

[BP]

I read this the same way - except I don't apply the DM to a non-physical/suit related task (psionics being obvious, but I'm sure there are others...)

Also found a reference to the suit specific skill level requirements - in MGT Mercenary (believe someone referred to these earlier - but I didn't know if the source was MGT). The Boarding Vacc Suit requires higher level vacc skill at lower TLs. So with no vacc skill the DM could be -4 (or more).

Battle Dress works in a like manner. In fact, its wording is a lot more precise:

• If the character does not have the requisite level of Battle Dress skill to use the suit he is wearing, he suffers a -2 DM to all skill checks for each missing level of the skill.

The book emphasizes the 'all' - (in direct contradiction to my ignoring the DM as mentioned above - house rules )