Updating to 3rd Age or Crusade Era EA

The quitesential answer has not been answered until now.

Why should I update to 3rd age or crusade? What benefits do I gain apart from the iconic Omega and the Warlock?
 
Lone Gunman said:
Why should I update to 3rd age or crusade? What benefits do I gain apart from the iconic Omega and the Warlock?
Well, its a totally different fleet. Both have pros and cons.

You gain thunderbolts, lose tethys, nova changes weapon loadout... you can see the differences yourself on the fleet lists.
 
I've never had an issue with getting shots with the standard hyperion. The command hyperion however........It's just cursed in my hands.



Dave
 
I think that one of the greatest things you gain by adding some 3rd Age ships is flexibility. Not sure how many people you play against or what the environment is like, but that added flexibility can equate to surprise on the battlefield. If everyone knows you as the Early EA guy in your group, and they plan for that, then you can now play 3rd Age and shake it up a little.

3rd Age adds some higher level ships but takes some lower level ones out. The Omega is a superior choice (IMO) to the Orestes for Battle-level ships (more fighters, jump engine, more interceptors, more weapons).

The Thunderbolt offers much the same performance as the Tiger Starfury, but loses the weak trait, gains atmospheric, more speed and an extra AD on the missile weapon at a trade-off of 2 less flights per Patrol point).

The Nova changes the weapon loadout, and that would be up to you if it is worth it. The broadside has a lot more AD, but it changes from AP and DD to Twin Linked. So it is up to you which you like better. Less dice to roll but AP DD or roll a handful of dice (twice).

The Avenger changes to Aurora Starfuries and, in the right era, Thunderbolts can be freely swapped, and that can be powerful fighter-wise.

You lose the Tethys, Artemis Escort, and Saggi. Gain the Omega, Warlock, and Poseidon. In higher level games, these ships can be quite powerful, the centerpiece of a fleet. The sheer number of fighters a Poseidon has can change the face of a game and the Warlock is a strong ship with very powerful weapons.

Some of it is preference and the local scene. If you play only small games and are satisfied with the Early EA options, then Early EA only is right for you. If you play larger point games or higher PL games, then maybe 3rd Age is right for you. Depends on what you like to play. Does that help a little bit?

And, as I said before, 3rd Age dovetails into Early EA quite a bit so that you can use many of the same ships you already have whilst adding some other options at your convenience.

Chris

Lone Gunman said:
The quitesential answer has not been answered until now.

Why should I update to 3rd age or crusade? What benefits do I gain apart from the iconic Omega and the Warlock?
 
I have to say that the standard Omega is a rather poor ship with it's Boresight Laser being is only heavy armament. It has to hope that it gets a good shot with them, if not the ship has not much firepower left to count on., but that's the problem with the new beam rule.
 
Tolwyn said:
I have to say that the standard Omega is a rather poor ship with it's Boresight Laser being is only heavy armament. It has to hope that it gets a good shot with them, if not the ship has not much firepower left to count on., but that's the problem with the new beam rule.
Hmm, the majority of Battle PL ships have a big beam at the front and some secondaries. I don't think that the Omega is particularly short-changed in this area. In fact it also has the interesting bonus of the broadside light laser cannons.

There are a few variations such as the G'Quan having emines but it pays for it by having 2 less AD on it main laser cannons. Centauri have better secondaries but their battle lasers are shorter range and not DD. In general it evens out but I don't really think that the Omega is undergunned. If you want something lined with multiple banks of weapons you really need to go up to War PL for most races.
 
Tolwyn said:
Narn and Centauri. I wish I had some of the toys they have.

Every player of every fleet thinks along those lines :) One of the specific design goals of the second edition was to get every fleet jealous of others. Believe me, there are Narn and Centauri players looking on with green eyes at some of your ships!
 
Lone Gunman said:
The quitesential answer has not been answered until now.

Why should I update to 3rd age or crusade?

First, let me congratulate you - while others are swayed by the bright technological toys of the more recent fleets, you have stuck with the original flavour!

The EA are something of a trap (game design secret coming here :)). You only need add the odd ship here and there, and you can already turn your Early Years fleet into a 3rd Age one. A few more, and you have a Crusade fleet. Or Psi Corps.

With the EA, you have incredibly flexibility, and by growing inot 3rd Age or Crusade fleets, you can tap into ever greater variations and still use many of your existing models. Other players have to consider whole new races to get the same effect!

So, my advice? Explore 3rd Age first with the addition of the odd Omega, Thunderbolt and Poseidon, and see what works for you. Get used to the fleet, then start thinking about a Marathon and Apollo to grow into a Crusade fleet. Perhaps a Hunter and Mothership for Psi Corps too. You will have the best of all worlds for a minimum of effort.

But don't stop playing the Early Years fleet completely - it marks you as an EA player with discerning taste :)
 
msprange said:
Every player of every fleet thinks along those lines :) One of the specific design goals of the second edition was to get every fleet jealous of others. Believe me, there are Narn and Centauri players looking on with green eyes at some of your ships!

I'd sell my bald, Centauri mother for a double damage beam at 30"... :(
 
I just ordered my first EA fleet box today. Going with third age first. When I get them finished I will order one of the other boxes. My goal is to be able to field a fleet of early years, third age, crusade, and Psi Corp.
 
Every player of every fleet thinks along those lines :) One of the specific design goals of the second edition was to get every fleet jealous of others. Believe me, there are Narn and Centauri players looking on with green eyes at some of your ships!

Yeah :wink: . I would gladly trade my Pulse and Plasma Cannons as I play all 3 EA Eras) for Ion Cannons.

I'm looking forward to test the Omega in our upcoming campaign. Hopefully it will perform better than last weekend.
 
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