Updated High Guard Ships

[AndrewW]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gA7MnsjdRE5Yi9L20dnlSlJuhPwx2L8_/view?usp=sharing

Note just the stats, doesn't include deck plans.

 

[Geir]

Are these official, semi-official, or just your suggestions?

 

[AndrewW]

Are these official, semi-official, or just your suggestions?

At least semi official.

 

[Old School]

Nice job!

 

[Geir]

Are these official, semi-official, or just your suggestions?

At least semi official.

Cool! I'm assuming you're the Andrew who is the coauthor?

Two humble suggestions from my very superficial skimming:
1) Make the Ghalalk match the Elements version (spinal mount sticks out, but I didn't look further or do a real comparison)
2) Make the Tigress a Sphere hull

 

[AndrewW]

Cool! I'm assuming you're the Andrew who is the coauthor?

That would be correct.

Two humble suggestions from my very superficial skimming:
1) Make the Ghalalk match the Elements version (spinal mount sticks out, but I didn't look further or do a real comparison)
2) Make the Tigress a Sphere hull

The ships where based on the listing in Classic Traveller so have whatever type they did.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

Brilliant, thank you!


And now let the complaining begin:

The Gig looks a little strange, just like a Heavy Fighter in fact.

 

[AndrewW]

And now let the complaining begin:

Complain away. (constructive of course)

The Gig looks a little strange, just like a Heavy Fighter in fact.

Somehow that file got messed up. Fixed though and put up a new version (updated the URL in the first post).

 

[AnotherDilbert]

2) Make the Tigress a Sphere hull

The ships where based on the listing in Classic Traveller so have whatever type they did.

The CT Tigress has configuration 5: Sphere?

There is no "Standard" configuration in CT:

 

[Baldo]

Those 16 tons for the Multi-Environment Space in the Safari Ship (page 46) are for *two* different 7-tons-cargo-space + 1 ton-environmental-equipment Multi-Environment Spaces, am I right? Do you can use a Multi-Environment Space as an additional/regular cargo hold?

 

[Geir]

2) Make the Tigress a Sphere hull

The ships where based on the listing in Classic Traveller so have whatever type they did.

The CT Tigress has configuration 5: Sphere?

There is no "Standard" configuration in CT:

I figured AnotherDilbert would beat me to it, especially since I'm focused on rebuilding a sector. I suppose the cylinder is the close to "Standard", but the majority of the old ships are Close configuration (4), which certainly makes sense with the current rule set. I've implied elsewhere that "standard, reinforced" is just a ploy by General Products to make more money off maintenance contracts, because it makes no sense otherwise. I miss the flattened sphere configuration, but maybe that's just a Millennium Falcon thing.

 

[AndrewW]

Those 16 tons for the Multi-Environment Space in the Safari Ship (page 46) are for *two* different 7-tons-cargo-space + 1 ton-environmental-equipment Multi-Environment Spaces, am I right? Do you can use a Multi-Environment Space as an additional/regular cargo hold?

Yup, it is a couple of separate spaces. The space can be used for regular cargo as well except for the equipment space, it's just more flexible depending on what you are carrying.

 

[AndrewW]

The CT Tigress has configuration 5: Sphere?

Well, ok for most purposes based on that. Configuration mostly defaulted to standard but could be adjusted.

 

[Condottiere]

I thought everyone, including official art, agrees the Tigress class is a semimegatonne sphere with a keylock.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

Gig:

Hull cost: MCr 1 + 20% for streamlined config = MCr 1.2.

Total discounted cost should be MCr 7.272.



Kinunir:

Discounted Pinnace should not be discounted again?

 

[AndrewW]

Gig:

Hull cost: MCr 1 + 20% for streamlined config = MCr 1.2.

Total discounted cost should be MCr 7.272.

Oops, fixed.

Kinunir:

Discounted Pinnace should not be discounted again?

Have thought about that one before myself, onboard craft do tend to get the discount twice.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

Chrysanthemum

Hull Cost: MCr 50 × 90% × 150% = MCr 67.5, OK.
Armour Cost: Hull Cost × 8% = MCr 67.5 × 8% = MCr 5.4, not 3.92.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

Fer-de-lance:

Fuel 400 + 12 Dt is correct, but 4 weeks is 7 Dt, so 714 Dt is required for 8 weeks endurance.

The original has scoops and purifiers.

 

[AndrewW]

Chrysanthemum

Hull Cost: MCr 50 × 90% × 150% = MCr 67.5, OK.
Armour Cost: Hull Cost × 8% = MCr 67.5 × 8% = MCr 5.4, not 3.92.

Formula got messed up on that one, instead of hull+reinforced hull price it was doing hull+4 (should have been hull+h4).

Updated.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

Leviathan

Multi-Environment Space is MCr 0.5 per Dt equipment, not per Dt of space.

20 Dt Multi-Environment Space should take 21 Dt, MCr 0.5, 1 Power.


Low berths take 1 Power together, not noted under required power.