Traveller, TAS, and AI

[hopsnbaer]

What was your sample size?

Personal experience on the Forum, Discord and other media. I estimate that my estimate may have a degree of accuracy of +\- 0% to 100%

 

[Arkathan]

@jwlovell
Any time anyone says we are not coming for your jobs, your money, your kids, your guns, your freedom of speech or religion or anything else, that is exactly what they are coming for.

 

[Endie]

@jwlovell
Any time anyone says we are not coming for your jobs, your money, your kids, your guns, your freedom of speech or religion or anything else, that is exactly what they are coming for.

That's a bit QAnon.

So if people say they're coming your your jobs, then they're coming your your jobs?

If people say that they're not coming for you jobs, then they're coming your your jobs?

What if they stay suspiciously quiet? Presumably they're sneaky and they're coming your your jobs?

 

[Arkathan]

It isn't QAnon, it is simple fact, and readily observable.
Every single thing that has been called a side-of-common-sense conspiracy theory over the last decade has become a documented fact.

 

[Endie]

It isn't QAnon, it is simple fact, and readily observable.
Every single thing that has been called a side-of-common-sense conspiracy theory over the last decade has become a documented fact.

Every single one? So QAnon? Flat Earthers? Chem Trails? Pizzagate? I missed the memo that they’re all true?

Sounds to me like the work of an overarching conspiracy by Rosicrucian Masonic Templar deep state conspiracy theorists in the mainstream media. How deep does this rabbit hole go? We’re through the looking glass here, people.

 

[Arkathan]

Flat earth and chem trail and not Common Sense. You are being hyperbolic to defend your position.
How many people did Amazon replace with AI a couple of months ago?
More examples turn political, but if you are honest, you KNOW what I am talking about.

 

[MarcusIII]

Progress always causes displacement. Society always adjusts to it and expansion of the economy continues. 'Before the cotton gin, processing cotton was a labor-intensive and inefficient process that required separating each seed from the fiber by hand, a task that took about ten hours to produce just one pound of usable cotton. This manual work severely limited the profitability of cotton and hindered its production on a large scale, making it less economical to grow widely.'

It is always thus. And always will be. Imagine how many people working as part of a ginning crew lost their jobs to the cotton gin.

 

[Arkathan]

The cotton gin didn't compete with people engaging in self fulfillment activities after taking their jobs. AI cannot make a similar claim.

 

[MarcusIII]

The cotton gin didn't compete with people engaging in self fulfillment activities after taking their jobs. AI cannot make a similar claim.

Not relevant. People lost their only job to the gin and means of supporting themselves. that is FAR more important in a society.

 

[Arkathan]

The relevance is that in addition to taking jobs, AI is devaluing the human pursuit of excellence. And AI is not restricting itself to taking jobs in labor intensive pursuits.

 

[MarcusIII]

The relevance is that in addition to taking jobs, AI is devaluing the human pursuit of excellence. And AI is not restricting itself to taking jobs in labor intensive pursuits.

Nope. No pursuit of excellence is being stopped. If an "artist" person can't compete with the complete crap that is AI they aren't producing excellence.

 

[Arkathan]

Devalued. I did not say stopped.

 

[MarcusIII]

Devalued. I did not say stopped.

Not even devalued as AI doesn't produced excellence. It might devalue low quality work.

 

[Condottiere]

I think we'll blow up half the world, until artificial intelligence is fully digested.

Not because of artificial intelligence itself, but rather because of the mess it's about to create.

Long Night ahead.

 

[Arkathan]

Not even devalued as AI doesn't produced excellence. It might devalue low quality work.

Two years ago, you could tell the difference between an actor and a deep fake. Two years from now, it will be possible to completely invent news from scratch and it will be very difficult to tell truth from the fiction tyrants want you to believe. Any inconvenient person can be placed on a security camera feed doing or saying anything that someone who wants to hurt them cares to implicate them in.
If there is no pushback now to put AI in its lane, there will be no limits to the harm to the human condition.
I do not care to have people, who are proven to be dishonest and who only care about their own power, to be the ones who shape our future. Do you?

That is the essence of it coming for your work, or whatever. Just because it cannot NOW, does not change the goal, and it improves its capabilities daily.

 

[MarcusIII]

Two years ago, you could tell the difference between an actor and a deep fake. Two years from now, it will be possible to completely invent news from scratch and it will be very difficult to tell truth from the fiction tyrants want you to believe. Any inconvenient person can be placed on a security camera feed doing or saying anything that someone who wants to hurt them cares to implicate them in.
If there is no pushback now to put AI in its lane, there will be no limits to the harm to the human condition.
I do not care to have people, who are proven to be dishonest and who only care about their own power, to be the ones who shape our future. Do you?

So, straw man argument. Has nothing to do with the non-existent devaluing of excellence argument you were making. Stop using straw man arguments.

 

[Endie]

Flat earth and chem trail and not Common Sense. You are being hyperbolic to defend your position.
How many people did Amazon replace with AI a couple of months ago?
More examples turn political, but if you are honest, you KNOW what I am talking about.

Nobody thinks their conspiracy theory is anything but common sense. Wisdom is in self-awareness and the ability to critique one’s own views.

 

[Arkathan]

So, straw man argument. Has nothing to do with the non-existent devaluing of excellence argument you were making. Stop using straw man arguments.

Basically, you are calling a fact a conspiracy theory, which will become documented fact in a couple of years.
My argument is not a strawman, it simply is not one where my head is stuck in the sand... or somewhere else.

 

[MarcusIII]

Basically, you are calling a fact a conspiracy theory,

Basically this is the 2nd straw man argument you have presented after you lost your argument about AI preventing excellence.

 

[Arkathan]

Nobody thinks their conspiracy theory is anything but common sense. Wisdom is in self-awareness and the ability to critique one’s own views.

And yet, every actual common sense conspiracy has been documented as fact.
Come to think of it, several real tinfoil-hatter theories have come out as actual operations in recent years.