TL-16 Aslan world?

It's interesting that the sources mention paying off rivals, but I can find no rivals mentioned anywhere. Who are these nebulous forces that work against them?
 
Terry Mixon said:
It's interesting that the sources mention paying off rivals, but I can find no rivals mentioned anywhere. Who are these nebulous forces that work against them?
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The Allegience Code of the planet is AsT8, one of the blocks of the Tlaukhu. T8 are the Seieakh, Akatoiloh, and We'okurir clans, as well as their vassals and any allies that they may have. So, the rivals are likely other Tlaukhu blocks.
 
Terry Mixon said:
I'm hopeful it will have more data in it as this is interesting.
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Agreed, this planet and its tense situation with the other leading clans of the Heirate just screams out an unimaginable number of possible campaigns, adventures, and plothooks that revolve around just this one planet and its un-Aslanlike Aslan.

Like Vincennes in the 3I, this is the most powerful world in the Heirate, but unlike Vincennes, most of their benefits have to be traded away to the other clans to avoid being destroyed.
 
Vincennes is very important, but just being one tech level in advance of other Pop10 Industrial worlds (for example Mora) doesn't mean it dominates, especially in areas which do not see much improvement at TL16. I'd be cautious of labelling any single world as "the most powerful" unless they have such an edge as to eclipse the others.
 
rinku said:
Vincennes is very important, but just being one tech level in advance of other Pop10 Industrial worlds (for example Mora) doesn't mean it dominates, especially in areas which do not see much improvement at TL16. I'd be cautious of labelling any single world as "the most powerful" unless they have such an edge as to eclipse the others.
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Wasn't there a single TL 17 world in the CT Atlas?
 
rinku said:
Vincennes is very important, but just being one tech level in advance of other Pop10 Industrial worlds (for example Mora) doesn't mean it dominates, especially in areas which do not see much improvement at TL16. I'd be cautious of labelling any single world as "the most powerful" unless they have such an edge as to eclipse the others.
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Superior Sensors, Prototype TL-17 items such as Hop-Drive and the Advanced Fabricator which can pop out a fully grown clone or a set of TL-16 Battledress or both each hour, actual Conscious Digital Intelligences, Star Trek-style transporters for raw matter, actual Black Globes, Bonded Superdense armor, etc.

Also, a blanket +1 to sensors versus TL-15 ships for a grand total of +3 with the Superior Sensors
 
Jumping straight to Protoype 17 and ignoring the TL-15 worlds maybe having prototype TL-16?

That doesn't seem fair.

How about we stick to the production tech for a discussion about what the respective worlds can supply their fleets en masse, eh?

By definition prototype systems predate full production; they'd still be using actual TL-16 factories to make almost all their TL-16 equipment. To be honest, at even TL-13 you're probably just making as much gear as you need in short order out of your robot factories anyway, and those are likely to be much cheaper and possibly better made than the fabricated version.

So... yes a +1 advantage on the Smart weapons and sensors. Molecular Bonded steel is very nice, (except vs Mesons ofc).
Thinking computers are also nice. That's a definite advantage, if you're allowed to install them. For the specific example of Vincennes, probably not, at least in large numbers.

I have to admit I could not find any reference to Superior Sensors or matter transport in Core or High Guard. Where are those from?

Look, I do not deny that a Vincennes squadron definitely has a significant edge over an equivalent TL-15 squadron. My point was that there's one Vincennes and an entire TL-15 Imperial Navy, backed by many, many Pop 10 TL-15 industrial worlds. Their tech edge isn't so far in advance of the Imperial army and fleet that they could stand against even the Sector fleet of Deneb.
 
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rinku said:
Jumping straight to Protoype 17 and ignoring the TL-15 worlds maybe having prototype TL-16?

That doesn't seem fair.

How about we stick to the production tech for a discussion about what the respective worlds can supply their fleets en masse, eh?

By definition prototype systems predate full production; they'd still be using actual TL-16 factories to make almost all their TL-16 equipment. To be honest, at even TL-13 you're probably just making as much gear as you need in short order out of your robot factories anyway, and those are likely to be much cheaper and possibly better made than the fabricated version.

So... yes a +1 advantage on the Smart weapons and sensors. Molecular Bonded steel is very nice, (except vs Mesons ofc).
Thinking computers are also nice. That's a definite advantage, if you're allowed to install them. For the specific example of Vincennes, probably not, at least in large numbers.

I have to admit I could not find any reference to Superior Sensors or matter transport in Core or High Guard. Where are those from?

Look, I do not deny that a Vincennes squadron definitely has a significant edge over an equivalent TL-15 squadron. My point was that there's one Vincennes and an entire TL-15 Imperial Navy, backed by many, many Pop 10 TL-15 industrial worlds. Their tech edge isn't so far in advance of the Imperial army and fleet that they could stand against even the Sector fleet of Deneb.
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The computers and sensors are in Behind the Claw.

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Cheers.

Don't think any of that really changes my argument. I'd back two TL-15 Tigresses vs one TL-16 one.

But in reality the ratio would be more like 10:1
 
rinku said:
Cheers.

Don't think any of that really changes my argument. I'd back two TL-15 Tigresses vs one TL-16 one.

But in reality the ratio would be more like 10:1
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The black globes might make that a much tougher fight, but not against too steep of odds.
 
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