The Fifth Frontier War is Coming...

MongooseMatt

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The Fifth Frontier War hits the Spinward Marches next month, as the Zhodani Consulate unleash their fleets upon unsuspecting Imperial worlds.

Prepare your campaign for these massive events with Whispers on the Abyss.


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Well I could give you the CT OTU answer but the MgT FFW has started differently, so the dates may not be the same.

"REGINA/REGINA (2314-A788899-A) 186-1107
The Admiralty was today electrified by the report of the appearance of a substantial Zhodani battle fleet at Ruie (Regina 2213-C776977-7), scarcely a parsec from the subsector capital. The report was carried by the detached scout-courier Wayward Dream. The crew of the Wayward Dream was quickly cloistered by Imperial Naval Intelligence and the ship placed under heavy guard in a sealed hangar bay at Luck Gibson starport. Ground crews at the starport, however, reported that the vessel showed some evidence of battle damage.
While all naval personnel at Regina Naval Base were put on full readiness, all ten heavy system defense boats were launched and are rumored to be vectored toward Prometheus, the large gas giant which would be a first priority target of a hostile fleet.
Representatives of the diplomatic ministry have pressured the Zhodani embassy for an explanation of this action, but thus far Ambassador Shterbifriashav has been unavailable for comment. Although Ruie is not an Imperial world, a Zhodani fleet would almost certainly have had to have violated the demilitarized zone, established after the Fourth Frontier War, to have arrived there. Grave diplomatic repercussions are expected."

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REGINA/REGINA (2314-A788899-A) 187-1107
The duke of Regina, speaking through his seneschal, announced in an emergency press conference that as of 12:01 AM this date a formal state of war has existed between the Imperium and the Zhodani Consulate. The seneschal explained that the declaration of war was handed to him by ambassador Shterbifriashav late last night. The seneschal declined to answer questions, stating that no further information was available at that time."
 
So you saying there’s no date for the first incident
In just the Pacific Theatre alone, you could make a case for lots of dates from 18 September 1931 to 7 December 1941, so that's more than a decade right there. If you where a resident of Manchuria, the first date would be rather indicative of the arrival of the war (and for that matter if you where a Japanese foot soldier), and, well, that second date was about a certain incident in Hawaii.
 
In just the Pacific Theatre alone, you could make a case for lots of dates from 18 September 1931 to 7 December 1941, so that's more than a decade right there. If you where a resident of Manchuria, the first date would be rather indicative of the arrival of the war (and for that matter if you where a Japanese foot soldier), and, well, that second date was about a certain incident in Hawaii.
You do know we are talking about the fifth frontier war not WW2 the first is an event in a rpg while the second is history. Two entirely separate things
 
In not happy with the run around when I’m asking a simple question about a in game even. I’m sure the imperium considered the day the first Zhodani warship crosses the boarder as the start of the war.
 
In not happy with the run around when I’m asking a simple question about a in game even. I’m sure the imperium considered the day the first Zhodani warship crosses the boarder as the start of the war.
No one is giving you a run around. There are lots of passionate and genuine people who are excited about the OTU and how the canon can reflect real life ambiguities, like WW2. They've had 47 years to think about the fiction, and we're all a bunch of passionate nerds.

I see two dates from 1107 above that are good possible start dates for you, such as 186-1107 when news of the breach of the DMZ at Ruie reaches Regina. 1107 is the canonical year with precursor events going however far back you care.
 
There probably lots of way to look at it.
The Zho are astrologicaly locked in, and cant expand anymore spingward. They're idealogically opposed to the Imperium. The Imperium is an aggressive expansionist power.
So there never been a peace, just an armistice. Even though the gaps between the ffw are longer, i suspect it just takes longer to rebuild numbers and go again.
In not happy with the run around when I’m asking a simple question about a in game even. I’m sure the imperium considered the day the first Zhodani warship crosses the boarder as the start of the war.
OTU wants ambiguity similar to real life.
Not having an exact date or reason why is a reflection to that.
Like for OTU we have the concept 5 major races. Which escapes me. Valani, Solomani, Zhodani, Aslan and Vargr are the races noted in charterd space to have invented Jump independently.
This is a politcol list. Being on that list is a matter of prestiege and politcal and military power.
So while Vargr, And Solo, Zho and Valani manage to invent the jumpdrive.
The Aslan did not. They were introduce the technology (by whom I forget), and manage to extraplate it from there. Which means they shouldnt be counted. However Aslan as a politcal body promotes and protects bbeing consider as such.
And we know its not a list based on demonstrable history.
The K'kree or Hiver arent on there, the same with Droyne, who've had it the longest at several hundred thousand years. Droyne no longer want to be a major politcal power. So they arent counted.
Going back to WW2. I personally argue that WW2 started when Imperial Japan invaded Mainland China in 1931. There were several involved nations. The splinter nations of China, Japan, Russia, Germany and the US. And there was minor involved with various other South Pacific countries. I feel that stating that WW2 started with Archduke is too eurocentrinic.

When FFW5 start? Probably a couple years after FFW4, with continued social, economic manlipulations, corporate and state esponiages and paying vargr pirates to be annoying. The actual declartion of war, is just a nice thing to do, but doesnt actually mean when the war started.
Like the Zho timed the delivery of the war declaration to coincide with their jump fleet openly attacking Imperial ships and planets.
Even if we want to take a very narrow view, then we cant actually take that date.
The Zho moving their assests to invade the 3I is when it really started and that was at least 7 days before the Ships jumped in. And probably a year before that to get all the assests into place.
 
No one is giving you a run around. There are lots of passionate and genuine people who are excited about the OTU and how the canon can reflect real life ambiguities, like WW2. They've had 47 years to think about the fiction, and we're all a bunch of passionate nerds.

I see two dates from 1107 above that are good possible start dates for you, such as 186-1107 when news of the breach of the DMZ at Ruie reaches Regina. 1107 is the canonical year with precursor events going however far back you care.
Agreed, when Wayward Dream emerges from jumpspace at Regina and broadcasts the news of a Zhodani fleet breaching the neutral zone at Ruie has always seemed a good start date to me.
 
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