Technology Marches On: Anagathics
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Solomani666
Mongoose
They may be healthy in old age but they will still die by 125 years old due to an artificial limit that has been placed on the human species.
The way things are going with GMO's, depleted soil, artificial everything, fluoride, chlorine, marginal cloud cover, pollutants and general stress, even 125 is a far stretch.
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The way things are going with GMO's, depleted soil, artificial everything, fluoride, chlorine, marginal cloud cover, pollutants and general stress, even 125 is a far stretch.
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ShawnDriscoll
Cosmic Mongoose
The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Drugs will only form one leg of human longevity.
Tom Kalbfus
Mongoose
If you want to go back to nature and live in cave like Early Man, then you'll be lucky to reach 40! Of the things that usually kill you, nature is one of the leading causes Putting off or slowing down aging is a way of cheating nature and that by definition is unnatural. For instance, the Black Death was perfectly natural, but many people died from it. Most of the people who died in the Black Death did not live in an industrial society like we do today. Going back to nature is no way to live to 125! Really old people live in nursing homes and need lots of medical attention, that is how they stay alive as long as they do after all.Solomani666 said:
Tom Kalbfus
Mongoose
We need to break the biological code, we haven't mastered the biology of perpetual living, and eating all the whole wheat grains in the world is not going to do it. I find that lots of exercise increases the chance of injury, so you trade of heart attacks for arthritis, broken bones, and pulled muscles.Condottiere said:
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Besides the fact that there was some form of pension fraud in Japan, where caregivers of the elderly kept collecting government cheques for the deceased, a controlled diet, controlled exercise regime and selective organ and tissue replacement will keep you alive for quite a while.
Solomani666
Mongoose
Tom Kalbfus said:
Your reply has nothing to do with what I said and is irrational.
Tom Kalbfus said:
Nor should we. The reason the old die is to make room for the young, especially with our limited resources. Creating longevity using medicine and lifestyle changes is good, but if we live forever we doom ourselves and our descendants to a life of poverty.
(Of course, we still need the old to teach the young. But the young deserve a chance to become the old wise ones who pass on to the new young.)
Solomani666
Mongoose
Tom Kalbfus said:
People who are in shape are less prone to injury because they often have the physical ability to avoid the injury in the first place.
It's only when you engage in a sport that pushes the limits, that injuries become commonplace.
A fractured wrist from rollerblading or a pulled muscle from running is not going to decrease your life expectancy in a modern society.
A person who lives a healthy lifestyle is way less likely to have a heart attack.
(Roll End to avoid a heart attack...)
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Solomani666
Mongoose
Jame Rowe said:
If everyone in the world held hands and sang Kumbaya, our planet could easily support 3 times it's current population and by the time that Earth got even close to being full we would already be travelling to the stars.
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alex_greene
Guest
The universe of Traveller allows the very old to live as long as they can, surrounded by younger people, teaching the young their experiences whilst venturing out to the stars. They'll never run out of space or resources for old people out there.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
As long as you continue to directly contribute to the GDP, rather than live off your government pension, it doesn't become a zero sum game.
alex_greene
Guest
A lot of Travellers live off their annual pension and their mustering out benefits. Traveller's not about contributing or zero sum games. It's about adventuring.Condottiere said:
Otherwise, it'd look like the Star Trek TNG episode "Half A Life" where everyone aged 60 was euthed for the good of society.
Like I say, the universe of Traveller is a big place - big enough for an eighty year old to go around burning up the air, because there'll always be more air.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
The issue is about longevity in general.
Pensions were introduced because you wouldn't be capable physically to continue to support yourself and your dependants financially.
If you're hale and hearty, that's no longer necessary.
Pensions were introduced because you wouldn't be capable physically to continue to support yourself and your dependants financially.
If you're hale and hearty, that's no longer necessary.
alex_greene
Guest
What if your character is neither hale nor hearty, but got bounced around for eight terms, each time being ejected for failing a Survival roll and having to roll on the Mishap tables, and at least twice on the injury table?
Oh, and failed a couple of aging rolls, too?
Oh, and failed a couple of aging rolls, too?
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Let's assume that for all practical purposes you have eternal youth.
Instead of a pension, if you're injured, whether, physically or mentally, health insurance kicks in and everything is done to restore you to back to physical perfection, so that you can continue your life without handicaps.
Plus, after serving your country or corporation for a set period of time, one of the severance packages would be supporting you while you recuperate and retrain for another occupation.
Instead of a pension, if you're injured, whether, physically or mentally, health insurance kicks in and everything is done to restore you to back to physical perfection, so that you can continue your life without handicaps.
Plus, after serving your country or corporation for a set period of time, one of the severance packages would be supporting you while you recuperate and retrain for another occupation.
