star ship pricing

[Jak Nazryth]

Update.
I got hold of a copy of the "wealth" section out of Dilettante and I allowed my friend playing his Soc-13 Noble to re-roll on his mustering out benefits using the wealth and portfolio table. He rolled Business all three times, yielding a monthly income of 270k credits. He dumped his ship shares for pure cash. Now he can make most, if not all, the payments on what ever ship they choose, simply becoming the primary share holder simply by paying for 80% of the ship!
I never knew how useful spoiled rotten nobles could be to the party!
Problem solved.
At least I hope I used the wealth charts correctly...

 

[hdan]

A lot of industrial/commercial/military components have less than a two year life before you're required to pull and replace them.

And keep in mind that Traveller ship components need to be refurbished every year, so really they only have a 1 year service life as well.

 

[DFW]

A lot of industrial/commercial/military components have less than a two year life before you're required to pull and replace them.

And keep in mind that Traveller ship components need to be refurbished every year, so really they only have a 1 year service life as well.

Incorrect. That is maintenance NOT refurbishment. Refurb of an engine costs FAR more than the % listed. By many factors

 

[hdan]

And keep in mind that Traveller ship components need to be refurbished every year, so really they only have a 1 year service life as well.

Incorrect. That is maintenance NOT refurbishment. Refurb of an engine costs FAR more than the % listed. By many factors

In real life, or in the rules? (Not being argumentative, just asking for clarification.)

Either way, I'll defer to you on this one. I don't have any experience at all with refurbishing large machinery.

 

[DFW]

In real life, or in the rules? (Not being argumentative, just asking for clarification.)

Either way, I'll defer to you on this one. I don't have any experience at all with refurbishing large machinery.

Both. The rules state "maintenance". Refurbishment isn't mentioned as it means taking something apart and rebuilding. That would cost you ~50% of original.

 

[BP]

Yep - its just maintenance. Of course, ~50 is a total SWAG - lots of factors affect cost... refurbs on older equipment can easily cost more than the original! Sometimes even more than new replacement - chosen in lieu of time and physical constraints (whole project vs just component) as well as compatibility with existing older components, etc.

 

[locarno24]

I got hold of a copy of the "wealth" section out of Dilettante and I allowed my friend playing his Soc-13 Noble to re-roll on his mustering out benefits using the wealth and portfolio table. He rolled Business all three times, yielding a monthly income of 270k credits. He dumped his ship shares for pure cash. Now he can make most, if not all, the payments on what ever ship they choose, simply becoming the primary share holder simply by paying for 80% of the ship!
I never knew how useful spoiled rotten nobles could be to the party!

Yup. With Dilettante being an auto-qualify career, and having at least one 10+ stat is fairly likely, having at least one spoilt kid as 'the bank' is a useful idea for a successful group...

Of course, it leaves the GM so many fun options as well; if the palyers get dependent on something you can always choose to knock it away!

 

[Jak Nazryth]

Yeah.... I read the rules for market effects, so I will randomly generate what happens to his market shares every game-month. OOPS! A crash in the market... to bad... :twisted:

 

[Treebore]

Yeah.... I read the rules for market effects, so I will randomly generate what happens to his market shares every game-month. OOPS! A crash in the market... to bad... :twisted:

Its even better if you have the crash caused by something the players were involved in.

 

[rust]

Its even better if you have the crash caused by something the players were involved in.

Right. I remember a game where the characters, the crew of a far trader,
learned that a certain type of power cell was in very high demand on a
certain planet, where people were willing to pay ten times the normal price
or more. They bought an entire shipload of power cells, transported them
to the planet and made a very, very nice profit. However, they were both
greedy and economically challenged and tried to repeat this, but mean-
while the price of the power cells had gone up considerably on the source
planet (someone had bought a shipload of them, the market was empty)
and had gone down considerably on the destination planet (someone had
delivered an entire shipload, enough for the next fifty years), so their se-
cond visit to the planet was a financial desaster, they lost a lot more than
they had earned with their first voyage and almost went bankrupt.

 

[Treebore]

Thats one way, but I was thinking more along the lines of the local stock market. Like a local corps stock has risen a great deal because they got a HUMONGOUS contract. The groups "money man" invested heavily in this corp in hopes they would get this contract, and expect the stock to go up at least another 20%.

The group was recently supposed to be policing the system when a huge cargo ship was attacked, and during the attack the PC's show up, but failed to stop a shot that caused a critical detonation and destruction of the cargo ship.

In reality the ship was sabotaged from the inside, and the attack was to mask the escape of the saboteur. The only clue the PC's had about half hour before detonation (remember, space combat takes a long time) was that some kind of emergency pod had been jettisoned from the Cargo ship.

If ignored, the PC's have no chance of stopping the detonation, if the pod is recovered by the PC's and they are suspicious, they may uncover the plot and stop it.

If they fail to stop it, not only do they fail, but they also find out the cargo ship had vital supplies on board for a certain Corp to finish their contract on time. This loss causes them to fail to fulfill and lose the contract, causing the stocks to plummet 80%, which is about half of what they were worth originally.

 

[Reynard]

One of my favourites is "I'll pay for your ship, as long as you do everything I ask"... which can be everything from cargo running, to smuggling, to blowing the crap out of competition. Fun fun

I believe Han Solo had a simialr deal.