Solomani Confederation (Military)

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Carriers

Q. The Zuiho aerospace group is around the hundredish 'craft size, if a dedicated Jagdgeschwader.

R. Unlike the Luftwaffe, the aerospace component would be subordinate to fleet commands, so there would be a certain size it wouldn't be feasible to create units for.

S. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that for an interstellar navy, eight is too small a grouping for a fighter squadron.

T. An aerospace group could be assigned to each Fleet Squadron, under the command of a [Group] Captain.

U. Each fast dreadnought would have it's own organic fighter wing, somewhat composite, led by a [Wing] Commander.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Carriers

Q. At this point, I realized I ran out of ranks.

R. [Flight] Lieutenant would lead a flight, but since Lieutenant [Commander] is a brevet rank for me, squadron and squadron leader are suddenly left in limbo.

S. On the other hand, rotte is basically section, element, cell, or division, and division is a subunit of a (navy) squadron.

T. So I could make (aerospace) squadrons semi permanent collections of assigned flights from permanent wings, and you can assign colours to identify them.

U. Sections, or cells, would be two to three 'craft, and flights, two to four sections.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Carriers

V. Four hundred fighters on what we'll assume are the largest Confederation Navy fighter carriers would be a Group.

W. (Navy) Carrier Squadrons would be usually commanded by a Rear Admiral from the Aerospace branch, much like a Fleet Squadron would likely be led by a Rear Admiral from the Line branch.

X. A Carrier Squadron would with two fighter carriers and eight hundred plus fighters, plus support 'craft be designated a numbered Aerospace Force.

Y. I would suppose an Aerospace Marshal would command a system based Aerospace Force, though that's just a thought that struck me, and needs more consideration.

Z. Though more like an Aerospace Commodore, if it's just a temporary build up
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

1. So I had a much closer look at the Zuiho.

2. It's implied that it's a compromised design.

3. I think it's a very compromised design.

4. First of all, why is it using light fighters?

5. You slightly double the size, you get a more capable 'craft.

6. Especially, considering this is supposed to be from the Confederation Navy, not Home Guard or member state.

7. Also, I count five hundred sixty two hardpoints on a twenty five kilotonne hull.

8. If I understand the concept, this was supposed to be one of those system control ships.

9. Though I find it hard to figure out how it's supposed to deal with anything more dangerous then a technological level nine threat.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

A. Twenty five kilotonnes is a good basis, as it allows leveraging the additional structural strength.

B. For the Confederation, jump factor three seems the fleet norm for range.

C. However, I can't imagine in any scenario that acceleration factor four is.

D. I don't think there is an issue with standard hull configuration, since it's a sort of vanilla compromise that allows you to add on armour plating without much additional expense.

E. Armour factor four seems the norm for destroyers.

F. Has a company of soldiers onboard.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

G. The concept is for a multi role ship, I'm guessing.

H. Without actually vivisecting the design to check for accuracy, I'm going to speculate it's doomed to failure.

I. Ninety six fifteen tonne fighters would require fifteen hundred eighty four tonnes in docking space.

J. You could squeeze in forty one thirty five tonne 'craft.

K. Better sensor coverage would allow a full launch on one launch tube in twenty five minutes, rather than scrambling in four minutes.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

L. The reason you build a twenty five kilotonne hull is to leverage the extra structural strength.

M. It's the same reason that you start off with a hundred kilotonne hull when considering capital ships.

N. For a gun cruiser, the range tends to be optimal between twenty five (for structural strength) and fifty (for spinal mount close in accuracy) kilotonnes.

O. If your ship doesn't have a spinal mount, it doesn't matter if the hull is larger than fifty kilotonnes.

P. If you don't prioritize structural strength, the ship can be below twenty five kilotonnes.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

Q. Since a spinal mount isn't involved, you could think of a spacecraft as an empty metal box.

R. Or, in this case, treat it as such.

S. Which means you could reconfigure the innards to sort of optimized to the particular role, or even mission, you want that spacecraft to perform.

T. Or, you could have a primary hull, and attach hangar modules, or other specialized ones, to the exterior of that.

U. Though I think that technically, these would be referred to as pods.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Army: Intervention Force

1. I heard that the Pentagon thesis (or belief) is that three battalions of three thousand troops, dropped anywhere globally within a day, could deescalate any situation.

2. If there are no Confederation ground forces insystem, that would require a minimum three week delay as they would need to be called in from the nearest Confederation Army base.

3. Part of that would be the implied morale force of neutrality, and the implication of reinforcement.

4. Which would make them preferable to Solomani Security Internal Security troops.

5. So I would think that most Confederation Navy transports would have accommodations for a brigade size contingent.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

V. Having a jump capability indicates that the spacecraft should be able to reach it's area of operation on it's own steam.

W. If you really wanted the light carrier to keep up with fleet units, then it should have had at least acceleration factor five.

X. As far as I know, light carriers were supposedly cut down fleet carriers, sacrificing capacity to maintain somewhat similar performance.

Y. Of course, in Traveller, that leans towards acceleration factor two.

Z. If an option had been escort carrier, you could drop acceleration to factor three.
 

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Mongoose
1. Apparently, no Scout Service, that function being performed by the Navy.

2. Makes sense if the idea is to assert control and access through a central institution.

3. Does seem to go against traditionalist Solomani, or at least American, values.

4. Maybe the Navy coordinates activities, and outsources the work to PMCs and other private corporations.

I have always been somewhat confused by the artificial separation of the various services. It seems to make vastly more logistical and projection of force sense to be a single service. At least to me.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Whether intentionally or not, what you ended up with is a somewhat more militarized version of Starfleet.

Not counting the likely bureaucracy, what you have are three big services that perform some basic functions: the Army provides dirtside security; the Navy lines of interstellar communication and power projection; Solomani Security internal security and external espionage.

The Army can't go anywhere without the Navy; the Navy doesn't have the means to occupy planets; Solomani Security keeps an eye on both (as well as everyone else), but would probably need resources from both to carry out it's functions.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

1. Technological level ten allows acceleration three, and tends to be about the maximum speed commercial spacecraft would push to.

2. A little careful astrogation would place such vessels at a minimum distance to the actual destination.

3. Jump factor three becomes available at technological level twelve.

4. Three and three is about the same performance as the mercenary cruiser.

5. That would make that performance acceptable in a paramilitary starship.

6. You probably don't need armour plating, if you plan to avoid being in a position where you are likely to.

7. While you could have a stock of spare parts to repair onboard 'craft, the usual procedure would be having extra 'craft onboard to replace destroyed or badly damaged 'craft.

8. Since flying could be tiring, you could have shared 'craft.

9. 'Craft can also be docked externally; in theory, a courier doesn't usually need a ride.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

A. We're looking for enough space for one hundred twenty troops, two kilotonnes worth of hangars, and launch and storage facilities for about fourteen hundred tonnes worth of smallcraft.

B. That probably would take up half the volume of specified starship.

C. Our budget is about fifteen gigastarbux, but preferably lower.

D. Fleet operations could mean similar performance to a (full) fleet carrier.

E. Independent operations would require enough cargo space to be self sustaining

F. Smallcraft component is compromisable.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

G. Since they've gone to the trouble of being a moving target while launching and recovery, minimum tonnage would be five kilotonnes plus.

H. That allows a distributed array

I. And knowing is half the battle.

J. Yo.

K. Since, as a carrier and a command ship, you want to have a very clear idea what's on approach.
 
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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

L. Five Thousand And One (tonnes), A Space Oddity.

M. Crew requirement drops by a quarter.

N. Twenty kilotonnes by a third.

O. Fifty kilotonnes, by a half.

P. Which is one of the reasons why fifty kilotonnes is the sweetspot for (mediumish) cruisers.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

Q. One reason to standardizing smallcraft sizes (and hull configuration) isn't just to eliminate the need for different sized docking space.

R. Shuttle operations, whatever they are supposed to be, would be at the same operational tempo, being able to use the launch tubes and recovery deck.

S. What makes an effective (commerce) raider?

T. Presumably, because fifteen tonne fighters are likely to get eaten up for breakfast by a robust planetary defense.

U. Against a convoy with a reasonably sized escort force, the half the destroyers would ignore the fighters and race to take out the carrier.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Zuiho Class Light Carrier

V. If there is a jump factor two variant with larger hangars, it would be a new design, as the two hangar pods would have to be enlarged, and the primary hull shortened.

W. I'm not too sure if this is the optimal design for long range exploration.

X. I wonder if the Navy duped Solomani Security into accepting them for their purposes, being anxious to get rid of them.

Y. I would have thought that a dedicated ecks boat tender would be more suitable for communications support.

Z. A combined hangar would probably allow greater flexibility in usage.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Carriers

1. How do you define a ('craft) carrier?

2. I'd say that it has a substantial 'craft component.

3. Launch tube(s) and recovery deck(s) that the majority of the craft can utilize.

4. If there are no launch tube(s) and recovery deck(s), the vessel is defined as a tender.

5. Rationale would be that a 'craft carrier can continue to perform launch and recovery of 'craft while under acceleration.

6. If you have to cut acceleration for launch or recovery, the vessel becomes vulnerable.

7. It's probably possible to develop a launch facility that requires less volume than a launch tube, at the expense of the launch rate.

8. A more basic form of the catapult concept, likely a combination of the launch tube and a mass driver.

9. That wouldn't necessarily make the vessel a carrier, but it would allow launch while under acceleration.
 

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Emperor Mongoose
Confederation Navy: Carriers

A. In theory, fleet implies that a starwarship can keep up with the line of battle.

B. Armoured (flight) deck carriers, could also be termed battle carriers, since the concept involved actually keeping up with the line of battle, if not incorporation, since they would have substantial armour plating.

C. Hard to say if there is an actual difference between attack and strike carriers, as both would use the onboard aerospace groups as the primary strike weapon system at a distance.

D. Light implies a cut down fleet carrier, with the same performance but a smaller aerospace component.

E. Assault would be a carrier optimized for planetary assault, with at least half the 'craft component consisting of troop transports.

F. Escort would be a cheap hull, with at a minimum a catapult and a recovery deck.
 
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