Science Fiction Author Harry Harrison Has Passed

I received the news that Harry Harrison, prolific science fiction author, creator of The Stainless Steel Rat and author of Make Room! Make Room! and the Deathworld trilogy, had passed in the wee small hours, this morning. I felt compelled to write up a blog post about it.
 
Captain Jonah said:
Damm. Another one crosses over.

Rest in Peace
What always appealed to me was his anti-war message in everything he ever wrote. He has been described as the "anti - Jerry Pournelle," because the message was never "Kill! Kill! Kill Everything!"
 
I'm sure everyone here is mature enough to handle the fact that he's DIED.

Not "passed" (passed what?), "crossed over" (crossed over what?), "moved on", "ceased to be", "shuffled off the mortal coil", or anything else.

Death happens. People die. It's OK to say that.
 
Wil Mireu said:
Death happens. People die. It's OK to say that.
You must be quite advanced, to have evolved past the use of euphemisms in speech.

I'm sure your gift for tact must make you quite the hit with the ladies.
 
alex_greene said:
I received the news that Harry Harrison, prolific science fiction author, creator of The Stainless Steel Rat and author of Make Room! Make Room! and the Deathworld trilogy, had passed in the wee small hours, this morning. I felt compelled to write up a blog post about it.

He'll be missed. A lot of classic authors have died in the last several years; I regret never having met most of them at conventions, but their work and influence lives on.

Harry Harrison also, to my knowledge, was the first SF author to coin the terms "Gauss Rifle" and "Gauss Pistol" (in the third of the Stainless Steel Rat stories).

I'd urge any Traveller fan who likes playing rogues or agents to read these. Some of the later-written stories and prequels are not quite so good but the original Stainless Steel Rat (three stories) is excellent blend of adventure and satire, holds up well today, and inspired numerous Traveller adventures in my own campaign - we lifted a few gadgets, and made the Special Corps a part of Imperial Intelligence.

Deathworld is also pretty cool.
 
alex_greene said:
Wil Mireu said:
Death happens. People die. It's OK to say that.

You must be quite advanced, to have evolved past the use of euphemisms in speech.

Why use pithy euphemisms at all? The guy died. It's OK to say that, we don't have some silly social taboos against saying so directly.


I'm sure your gift for tact must make you quite the hit with the ladies.

Tact has nothing to do with it. You're not going to offend anyone by saying he died, you know.
 
Wil Mireu said:
I'm sure everyone here is mature enough to handle the fact that he's DIED.

Not "passed" (passed what?), "crossed over" (crossed over what?), "moved on", "ceased to be", "shuffled off the mortal coil", or anything else.

Death happens. People die. It's OK to say that.

Its an odd thing, peoples belief. Every religion has a way of looking at death, a way of describing it without being blunt. It always seems to be those who both deny that they themselves believe and try to deny others the right to believe who are lacking in tact and diplomacy. What do you believe in Mr Mireu? What do you think will happen to you when you die, are you a nihilist?

Yes he has died, he has popped his clogs, he is dead, his heart no longer beats, his keen wit and writing style is no more.

He has passed beyond mortal ken, he has crossed from one existence to the next.

These are ways of expressing belief in the existence and continuation of life beyond what we can currently understand. For someone who posts on a forum dedicated to the imagination you seem singularly lacking in any imagination (not to mention tact).

A fine author has died, his wit and writing will be missed. No more slippery Jim stories to brighten an evening read or to provide a wealth of ideas for Traveller games.
 
My first reaction when i heard this was that the author of the Stainless Steel Rat had died...

Its about the only books I've read of his but this held alot more of a punch to the stomach to me than if it had been the author of say the Harry Potter series (apologies for the comparison) for the simple fact that even a decade after I read one of his books I still remembered it, whilst the other fantasy series has been turned into movies it still doesn't hold a candle to what his books could have done if given the same treatment.

Sorry but I wanted to put this into words and i tend to either mess it up or get far too longwinded!
 
Captain Jonah said:
It always seems to be those who both deny that they themselves believe and try to deny others the right to believe who are lacking in tact and diplomacy.

For someone who posts on a forum dedicated to the imagination you seem singularly lacking in any imagination (not to mention tact).
Indeed, I am reminded of this passage:-

"Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naïve, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as “empty” “meaningless,” or “dishonest,” and scorn to use them. No matter bow “pure” their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best."
-- Robert A Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

I posted the information as gently as diplomacy will allow, to give the readers here time to process the bad news. Preferably sitting down - shocks, as Lord Summerisle once put it, are so much better absorbed with the knees bent.

It is a man of limited tact indeed who would ignore the content and criticise the message.
 
Captain Jonah said:
Its an odd thing, peoples belief. Every religion has a way of looking at death, a way of describing it without being blunt. It always seems to be those who both deny that they themselves believe and try to deny others the right to believe who are lacking in tact and diplomacy. What do you believe in Mr Mireu? What do you think will happen to you when you die, are you a nihilist?

No, I'm merely a realist. We die, and that's it - make the most of the life you have, it's all you've got. That doesn't make me a "nihilist", I just don't do religion. The world has lost a talent that it will never see again, and that is sad.

But religion has nothing to do with this, neither does any kind of belief in an afterlife, and neither does tact. Seriously, if anyone is actually offended that somebody said that someone has died then they need to get out more. People can hide behind calling me "tactless" for saying this but I would say that they need to look past their "hurt feelings" to look at why they're hiding behind their own fears of death.

Death is something we all face in time - some of us face it more often than others. It's a fact of life. Denying its existence by hiding it behind fluffy phrases like "passed", or "moved on", or "gone to sleep" is just childish (but maybe that is why those phrases are used. People often explain death to a small child in those terms, and perhaps they just forget to grow out of it - but that doesn't make it "right" or "tactful" or "sensitive"). People face death with whatever dignity that they are able to muster, and then along comes a total stranger who trivialises it by wrapping death in bubblewrap to avoid offending their fragile sensibilities. That's not right, IMO.

To counter that Heinlein passage - sometimes people are so wrapped up in "honorifics" that they distract from and actually dilute the message they're trying to put across. Sometimes it's necessary to throw some sand in the machinery to make people realise that.

A fine author has died, his wit and writing will be missed. No more slippery Jim stories to brighten an evening read or to provide a wealth of ideas for Traveller games.

Yes, and that is sad. It's a pity that the OP wasn't "brave" enough to say it as directly and honestly as that.
 
Wil Mireu said:
No, I'm merely a realist.
No, just brutish and tactless.

Wil Mireu said:
The world has lost a talent that it will never see again, and that is sad.
Coming from you, that means almost nothing.

Wil Mireu said:
and neither does tact. Seriously, if anyone is actually offended that somebody said that someone has died then they need to get out more.
It's your lack of netiquette that offends.

Wil Mireu said:
People can hide behind calling me "tactless" for saying this but I would say that they need to look past their "hurt feelings" to look at why they're hiding behind their own fears of death.
I'm not hiding. I am calling you out. J'accuse. Net troll.

Wil Mireu said:
People often explain death to a small child in those terms
And there are no youngsters here, on this family-rated forum?

Wil Mireu said:
People face death with whatever dignity that they are able to muster
If people are kind enough to give them the space to do so in private, you know, which is where people come in to fora like this and use the fuzzy phrases. The phrase fragment "has died" is still a shock, but nowhere near as much a shock as the sentence fragment "is DEAD" or "has DIED" )emphasis on the shouting, which if you've studied netiquette in this case carries almost a gloating to it).

Wil Mireu said:
fragile sensibilities. That's not right, IMO.
We are all now well aware of your opinion, and its worth on the stock market. And you don't endear yourself by casting the aspersion that everyone around you is some sort of fool for having fragile sensibilities, whatever on earth that means. Something out of a period novel?

Wil Mireu said:
To counter that Heinlein passage - sometimes people are so wrapped up in "honorifics" that they distract from and actually dilute the message they're trying to put across. Sometimes it's necessary to throw some sand in the machinery to make people realise that.
You know what happens to irritants.

Wil Mireu said:
Yes, and that is sad.
Coming so late after your opening salvo, this hardly matters at all. Just words, used to, what, salve a guilty conscience?

Wil Mireu said:
It's a pity that the OP wasn't "brave" enough to say it as directly and honestly as that.
The use of quotes around the word "brave" here seals it. The penny dropped. You haven't the courage to outright call me a coward, so you slip the quotes around the word to somehow attempt to mitigate any backlash that you know is due from that challenge.

Then pay attention to this. No hiding behind quotes. Words as blunt as yours.

You are a troll.

Boorish, blunt, unfeeling, callous, the exact opposite of diplomatic. You don't seem to care so much for the content of the message, as in your urgent and driving need that your antidiplomatic approach should be proven right, and that your mighty wordplay should prevail.

I've met so many brutish, callous, vulgar men in real life that I can hear them in your little screeds. You don't care about Harry Harrsion's life, death or writings, because you are not a fan of his. You just jumped in to start shouting, calling everyone here a fool for mourning, telling everybody that our sensibilities are somehow more fragile because we aren't paying attention to you.

You ventured forth your opinion. Here is mine.

I do not care for your opinion.

Your opinion does not matter, because your unwavering attitude brooks no challenge. You are going to be proven right, no matter what. No matter how many people you have offended; how many people you have hurt.

No matter that you don't care about the subject, and your only aim throughout this entire thread has been to hijack it so you are the man of the hour being talked about.

I have had it with you, and had it with your trolling. Get off this thread. You are barred from the wake. Out, troll.
 
Everyone else, thanks for thinking about Harry Harrison. His writings meant a lot to me - some people are Star Trek fans or Whovians, but I was always a Stainless Steel Rat fan and just as fanatical - and the ending of Harry's days has caused me enough sorrow. I hope you can all find ways to express your feelings.

It's the weekend. This evening, as well as the usual Saturday night debauchery and playful shenanigans I expect to happen, I'm going to raise a glass to absent friends, in memory still bright.

And perhaps let us think of meeting the man again, in defiance of all rationality, at the end of time, in a place - as they say in Babylon 5 - where no shadows fall.

If only because that would really cheese off the realists.

Ripozu en paco, Harry.

If nobody minds, let's leave the thread at this point. See you all next week.
 
It's too bad he died.

That said, I've only read one of his books. Why? The one I want to read - namely, the FIRST Stainless Steel Rat book - has been long out of print and unavailable, and because of that I haven't tried any but the other one (which was an SSR at that), because I figured that whatever one I picked up wouldn't be the first one.

Yes, they should reprint his work.

NO, they MUST not reprint it in omnibus. Give me each individual book so I can read it individually.
 
James, it is on Kindle: http://www.amazon.com/The-Stainless-Steel-Rat-ebook/dp/B008KP3UPE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1345390990&sr=8-6&keywords=harrison%2C+harry+stainless+steel+rat

I can find it used, more or less affordable. :( I donated my copy to the local library because I could replace it on Kindle, relatively inexpensively. I wish I had known prior to donating it, although it may not have met your criteria -- it was an early version with the first three books (at that time, the only three books) in it.
 
In the original GDW Supplement 4 Citizens of the Imperium they give the stats of James "Slippery Jim" di Griz as the following

Special Agent 8C8B77 Age indeterminate Cr lots

Jack of all trades-2 Forgery-3 Streetwise-2 Electronic-2

Formerly a master thief, this individual was caught and now works (albeit grudgingly so) as a field agent for an organisation known as the Special Corps.
 
Ewan said:
In the original GDW Supplement 4 Citizens of the Imperium they give the stats of James "Slippery Jim" di Griz as the following

Special Agent 8C8B77 Age indeterminate Cr lots

Jack of all trades-2 Forgery-3 Streetwise-2 Electronic-2

Formerly a master thief, this individual was caught and now works (albeit grudgingly so) as a field agent for an organisation known as the Special Corps.
Keeping the characteristics the same, I wonder what Slippery Jim's stats would be in Mongoose Traveller, then?

I'd venture ...

Athletics-1, Art (Acting)-2, Computers-3, Deception-4, Engineer (electronic)-2, Explosives-2, Investigate-2, J-o-T-3, Language (Esperanto)-3, Language (Grey Person)-0, Persuade-2, Stealth-2, Survival-2, Trade (Forgery)-3.

Credits: variable. At times he could summon the forces of the Special Corps; at other times, he had little but the contents of his pockets to work with.

And yes, I consider it a tribute to Harry Harrison to chargen Slippery Jim here. :)
 
Jean said:
James, it is on Kindle: http://www.amazon.com/The-Stainless-Steel-Rat-ebook/dp/B008KP3UPE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1345390990&sr=8-6&keywords=harrison%2C+harry+stainless+steel+rat

I can find it used, more or less affordable. :( I donated my copy to the local library because I could replace it on Kindle, relatively inexpensively. I wish I had known prior to donating it, although it may not have met your criteria -- it was an early version with the first three books (at that time, the only three books) in it.

Thank you for the link, and I appreciate your desire to help.

However, I do not have and cannot afford to get a Kindle, as I have only a part-time job and a fiancee to support. :shock: So the money is gone almost as fast as I can earn it! :x

Oh, and you spelled my name wrong - Jame, without an "s."
 
Jame Rowe said:
Oh, and you spelled my name wrong - Jame, without an "s."

Jean--> :oops:

Sorry, I do try to get names right.

I think you can read the ebook on any computer with a browser. :)
 
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