Scale (a new light and now with pics :D)

Just showing the size of each in the pic, the 1/64 and 1/69 are both usable I think, just use the 1/69 as damaged and all is good.

Hope the pics conveyed the size of each.

Now if I only had a BFEvo fig to put with it.

HINT Glaring Hint



Lee
 
ok for us in the UK

we have these
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scale is left to right (like reading a book)
1: - 57 - 56 - 59 - 61 - 58 - 58 - 56 - 61 - 60 - 61
10 cars for £3.95 in the uk is good value and the cars dont look out of place against a gzg fig in realism stakes.

ok next us is a hmmvw in th same range 44pence each !! great for medic vehicles maybe or burnt out patrol cars.
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underneath is no scale the the military one is scaled at 1:64 so seems good to go.


ok next us is how do you guys fill your streets with these cars withouth it looking like toytown, and at min effort so you can be gaming ASAP

well this is a quick way to do it
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all i did was dry brush the forward 2 with bleached bone quite liberalt.. and thats it, keep it simple i say., possably do the smae effect with spray but that would be weather and cost dependant.

any way hope this may help you litter your street with cars, later il do a show how on makeing them cars look lke there abandoned in a war zone. (just need it to stop raining so i can go out side)
 
My bad, I forgot those dudes got chunks of metal attatched to their feet. Suprisingly those stargrunt look like they are ultra modern...

We have packs of cheapy cars to over here, but they tend to be outta scale :lol:
 
Stargrunt is ultramodern.
And thats a good point, GZG is probably the only mini company that still sells true 25mm minis.

And I will have to take a trip to tesco. Hopefully mine stocks them, was it normal tesco or extra?

I will have a look through my vehicle drawer, have a quick look see how many of mine arent buggered beyond belief.
 
Mr Evil said:
... a good size for a male is around 6ft although some call 5'10" so we shall just sit at a simple 180cm = a smidge under 5'11"

the scale has been called at 1:65 = 1800mm divided by 65 = 27.69 rounded up to 28mm

now the vehicles i have are 1:64 = 1800mm divided by 64 = 28.125 rounded down to 28mm.

All that is fine (and I'm not trying to be a scale thug here) but I believe the soldiers are NOT 28mm. I'd love for someone with an actual figure to post it's actual height! They are probably 28mm to eye-level. And that's okay, but since vehicles don't have an "eye-level" and only absolute dimensions, it means the soldiers are not "on-scale" with the vehicles.

The M1A1 Abrams is 144" wide, or exactly 12 feet. At 1/65 scale, that puts the vehicle at 56.27mm wide. And I'd wager big money the vehicle is spot on to those dimensions within a hair.

Now take a soldier and measure him to where you think his head is. Call him 6' tall if that makes you happy At 1/65 our intrepid soldier should come in (as you said) right around 28mm (give or take .25 of a mm).

But at 28mm to eye level, and 31-32 to top of head, our soldier is no longer 6' tall (well above the average human today) and more like 6'10" tall. At 1/65 every mm is worth about 2.56" in real life.

I think those infantry figures in your last shot look great next to that vehicle, and spot-on compared to that real-life photo. I look at the fig and the door on the vehicle and it looks like he "could" open the door and sit inside. But those figs are likely smaller than the BFE infantry figs.

And the SST trooper looks way, way to large to fit into that vehicle. I know the BFE are supposed to be smaller than SST so here's hoping they look right when up-close. Like I said, not trying to be a scale snob here, I really don't care WHAT the scale differences are, as long as they look good next to one another.

Steve
 
i see your concern SeattleGamer

but take a look at the gunner on my hmmwv and then the gunner on the MEA hilux, they look about the same to me.

im sure things will be fine thingers crossd, and the reports of small figs seems to conferm this. also the painting on the figs, if they are in scale with these cars, there going to look stunning, compared to what else is out their in that scale.

as soon as i got some figs in my hand i can do pics to delay fears, but unfortuantly not evan the MI in the uk have any samples to show stores :( wich is a shame as i showed a modle shop chain the resign prototype, and they loved the scale, and showed a real interest when they looked at the stuff on the website.
 
ok you have seen lots of pics now of my comparisons.

here are some prepainted USMC in 1:64 scale, in theory larger than 1:65 that mongoose do.

they measure around 25mm to 28mm from base of foot to very tip of the top of the helmet. i think alot of that is due to pose though, and the dificulty in measuring them.

any way il get some better pics soon. but here they are.

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these are not mongoose minis
 
Guys,

Our vehicle scale is calculated at 1/65th. I would remind people though that before jumping to any conclusions on dimensions they should, in the case of the Abrams, take into account the TUSK fittings.
 
cheers OB i keep trying to remind people that im using 1/64 stuff while the game is at 1/65, but they are prety close.

how much bigger is the tusk to a normal M1 ? i thought they were around the same size, plus il probably use the ozzy list some one posted for these figs as they do use some bought us equipment.
 
Very little discernible difference on size, certainly width. I took a ruler to the M1A2 on my desk and he's about 54.5mm wide, but that's an approximation. The schematics without TUSK we drew up have the width at 53mm.
 
PLA are a solid overall choice, I reckon. Once you get some you can try out the power of my Irish Guards at an opne day. :)
 
Mr Evil said:
cool my m1a1 is 56mm wide, good enough for home games, for tourny's il be getting myself a chineese force :)

I've just been looking over the schematics to refresh my memory. In fact the width of the hull with TUSK fittings is 55.5mm and it's the outside of the tracks that measures 53mm.
 
Mongoose Old Bear said:
PLA are a solid overall choice, I reckon. Once you get some you can try out the power of my Irish Guards at an opne day. :)

your on, il have to wip lees brits first though ;)
 
Mongoose Old Bear said:
If you are coming to the OD on the 10th I'll teach you to fly a Spitfire. :wink:
def comming on the 10th, but i have a love of strutmoviks :D but again your on.

gee its gonna be a bust day

:D
 
Mr Evil said:
Mongoose Old Bear said:
If you are coming to the OD on the 10th I'll teach you to fly a Spitfire. :wink:
def comming on the 10th, but i have a love of strutmoviks :D but again your on.

gee its gonna be a bust day

:D

I'll see about digging up a Soviet plane for you to play with. :wink:
 
heheheh cheers.

mind you they did fly hurricans on the lend lease program, and cobras.

realy looking forward to the open day :)
 
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