Re- Release huh !!!

[Hiromoon]

The jumping rules were Vague?

 

[Voracioustigger]

The jumping rules were Vague?

They were pretty... hmmm... I guess I'd have to say abused in my gaming group. Not in a cheesy sort of way, but just because we all sort of had different interpretations. Here are the 2 most popular interpretations we had...

1) Literal interpretation. Jumping allowed you to jump over objects up to 6" tall and shoot at any point. So you shot from the height that your model was at when the shots were fired. So if you are on 1" tall terrain, you shoot from a model's eye view standing on the 1" piece of terrain.

2) Implied interpretation. If you can jump over objects up to 6", then surely you always shoot on the jump as if you are 6" above the ground. This led to sniping from behind hills, which sometimes made games for some bug armies almost pointless. So, regardless of the terrain you are jumping over, you are always 6" in the air for shooting purposes.

 

[Hiromoon]

Matt did clarify this a little, VT... if I remember correctly...

 

[Voracioustigger]

Matt did clarify this a little, VT... if I remember correctly...

Yes, but not all SST players check this website.

 

[Hiromoon]

And for that they should be Donkeypunched.

 

[human_target]

Is that bad?

 

[Hiromoon]

www.vgcats.com

 

[dant164]

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still can do? it's plastic, easier to modify than the metal most of the minis were made from.

as for the second part-i'm afraid that you'r rather isolated in that. in most places the game was doing not so well(for eg-when it was imported to my place, there was an initaial surge of players. half a year later what, 10 remain more or less active?)

Personally id rather just put them together the way i want to without having to resort to stripping/overcoating them then hacking them apart with a hacksaw.

And i don't think ANYONE could call into question the old SST rules then look at 40k and say "No SST definately needs an overhaul"

While i agree there were some unbalanced things (Read: The entire skinnie army) A major overhaul wasn't needed, re-adressing the skinny book and updating a rulebook was all that was needed. Let alone shelving SST entirely for several months.

 

[Poko]

frankly,no, re-releasing the skinnies and rewriting something in the book was not what was needed. the book's ok, and that was actually imo the least important part(althoough having things like cover adressed is nice)
the biggest problem were the sculpts-there were quite a few nice ones, but way too many "monkey sculpts" scattered amongst all armies.evo gives them a chance to upgrade those models, and let's be frank-many players would not want another game that need glue-and-paint minis, and having it done for them may just be the thing between buying or not.
also,little details that really did lower the overall quality of the minis,like sixgun barels drowned in flashmetal in exosuits.

 

[Turtle]

It was both problems in the rules and lack of armies, and the lack of high quality artistic models.

 

[tneva82]

Now people who wish to field the new dropships, or indeed the entire Forth army have no choice but to buy the pre-paints.

So you have coloured base colour to paint over rather than dull grey/white...Oh the horror!

Since I work from dull white/black which comes from spray paint doesn't really matter what colour is underneath :lol:

 

[MaxSteiner]

Its true that they just need spraying, but I think you seem quite to be missing the point that we're having to pay a markup for the fact that they're prepainted.
The drop ships are seem to be coming in at a bit more than was orignially planned for instance.