ShawnDriscoll
Cosmic Mongoose
Isn't an SRD free and has more pages included?
Re: Basic Character Generation 2d6 SF SR
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Anonymous
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Wasn't this posted earlier today and mysteriously disappeared?
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Anonymous
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Something about commercial posts on the forum?
Here's hoping LBH will be along shortly, where's the report button?
Here's hoping LBH will be along shortly, where's the report button?
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Anonymous
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:shock:
It's gone again!
Please delete the thread!
It's gone again!
Please delete the thread!
dmccoy1693
Cosmic Mongoose
Its not a Traveller Licensed product.
Prime_Evil
Emperor Mongoose
It seems like this is an attempt to reverse-engineer some of the sections omitted from the "official" SRD - think of it as a Traveller retroclone 
It seems like Mongoose is slowly working on an update to the core rulebook and hopefully they will update the SRD at the same time. If this is the case, they might open up some sections of the system that are currently defined as PI. When the Mongoose version of Traveller was released, they were very conservative about what they released to third-party developers because they didn't want to make it easy to clone the entire game system. (Actually, some areas that Mongoose Traveller considers as PI were available as OGC via the T20 product line and could easily be ported across, but go figure...).
It seems like Mongoose is slowly working on an update to the core rulebook and hopefully they will update the SRD at the same time. If this is the case, they might open up some sections of the system that are currently defined as PI. When the Mongoose version of Traveller was released, they were very conservative about what they released to third-party developers because they didn't want to make it easy to clone the entire game system. (Actually, some areas that Mongoose Traveller considers as PI were available as OGC via the T20 product line and could easily be ported across, but go figure...).
ShawnDriscoll
Cosmic Mongoose
It's a scam of some kind on drive thru rpg. Selling sections of a core book at $1 a page. The PDFs are still for sale there.
Gruffty the Hiver
Banded Mongoose
Nope, it's not a scam and it's not selling sections of a core book as none of the content has come from any core book - it's all OGC/OGL and you get a number of files in different file formats (.doc, docx, .odt etc) although admittedly the content is the same in all the files. A rough calculation puts the cost per word at less than £ 0.01 per word, even when you ignore the words on the "cover" and the text of the OGL (which can't be charged for anyway).ShawnDriscoll said:
It's actually the same idea as Mongoose's own Legend books i.e. everything in the Legend series of books is OGC, and Legend is based on the d100 system which is itself OGC.
Gruffty the Hiver
Banded Mongoose
Not necessarily - just check out Mongoose's own Legend series of books. They are all OGC and can be considered to be types of SRD yet they're not free. Note that there is no free Word document version of Legend available. Although the d100 system itself, on which Legend is based, can be downloaded for free from a number of different sites (as can a whole host of d20 SRD variants).ShawnDriscoll said:
Maybe it's just one part or section of a SRD?
Gruffty the Hiver
Banded Mongoose
Indeed. Large chunks of the of the T20 character generation process are OGC and could very easily be ported across to a simple 2d6 system withough having to touch the Traveller SRD v. 1.1.Prime_Evil said:It seems like this is an attempt to reverse-engineer some of the sections omitted from the "official" SRD - think of it as a Traveller retroclone
ShawnDriscoll
Cosmic Mongoose
Gruffty the Hiver,
Forget about SRD for a minute. Legion is $1. It's a complete core rule book. The 2d6 SF thing costs more and only covers rolling 2d6 for six characteristics and determining characteristic modifiers. Are you ok with that?
Anyway, the thread starter from a 1-post spammer was deleted for a reason.
Forget about SRD for a minute. Legion is $1. It's a complete core rule book. The 2d6 SF thing costs more and only covers rolling 2d6 for six characteristics and determining characteristic modifiers. Are you ok with that?
Anyway, the thread starter from a 1-post spammer was deleted for a reason.
Prime_Evil
Emperor Mongoose
That would certainly make sense.
I wonder what he will do once he hits the careers section? The official Mongoose SRD provides the general format for the careers and the Scout career in full - bur none of the others. On the other hand, the T20 rulebook released most the other careers as Open Game Content - but not in the format used by Mongoose / Classic Traveller. An interesting dilemma...
I wonder what he will do once he hits the careers section? The official Mongoose SRD provides the general format for the careers and the Scout career in full - bur none of the others. On the other hand, the T20 rulebook released most the other careers as Open Game Content - but not in the format used by Mongoose / Classic Traveller. An interesting dilemma...
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Can a mod please pipe up, why was the original thread/first post in this thread deleted?
Grufty, are you the UMP author/publisher?
Grufty, are you the UMP author/publisher?
Spammer: Yes and No. It is a legitimate effort at a commercial product, but ...Wil Mireu said:
... The Traveller Logo License Specifically prohibits character generation rules, and these are character generation rules, so an announcement of this particular product may indeed be inappropriate for the Traveller Forum. So it is spam in the same sense that an announcement of a D&D product in the Traveller forum is spam ... but it is not spam like an advertisement that 'Russian Women Want to talk with You'.
Too Expensive: Yes, I agree.
So how about some topic drift into a related issue ...
CHARGEN IN THE SRD:
I think that I understand why Mongoose removed Chargen from the TLL, to prevent a Traveller Logo Traveller Clone game ... you need the Traveller core book to play Traveller. That said, it has caused me some personal difficulty. I always felt that the Low TL Traveller worlds were getting short changed. There are lots of neat things that can be done with a Starship landing at a Class E Starport on a world of TL 0-3. So I wanted to create a Traveller Supplement/Adventure for a TL 0 World.
There is lots of interesting things that can be done with Cultures.
There is a lot of room to work with new/special Equipment.
There is opportunity to create some new Classes and tweak the skill lists for the conditions.
... However, the basic Traveller Chargen system will not really work for creating a Stone Age character. The initial range and statistical spread of the attributes needs to be adjusted to avoid a Hunter-Gatherer Imperial Baron of the Great Plains.
I even thought about just setting a range of appropriate characteristic values for a TL 0 character and letting the user figure out how to modify the Core Book Chargen to get the range, but all Chargen is forbidden under the Traveller Logo License ... so the project died at inception.
Sure, I could pursue a separate license agreement from Mongoose and FFE or I could pitch the idea for publication through Mongoose ...
Or I could produce a complete stand alone product ... "Paleo Wanderer" ...
... but I just had an idea for a Traveller Adventure in an under-represented setting ... a low TL world.
... and, frankly, both of those options are way too much hassle.
So I moved on to other projects.
There are lot of other possibilities that would run into the No Chargen with Traveller Logo problem ... like a new minor alien race, just to name one.
So does anyone else have any thoughts on whether Chargen should be in the Traveller SRD?
Available with the Traveller Logo?
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