Psi Corps ships on screen

Greg Smith

Mongoose
Which episodes do we see the Psi Corps mother ship on screen? There is a glimpse of it in 'The Corps is the Mother...', but we don't see the whole thing. Is it shown anywhere else?

Do we see any other Psi Corps ships on screen - I have a picture of a shuttle carrying Black Omega fighters in my head, but I have a feeling that isn't official.
 
Greg Smith said:
Which episodes do we see the Psi Corps mother ship on screen? There is a glimpse of it in 'The Corps is the Mother...', but we don't see the whole thing. Is it shown anywhere else?

Do we see any other Psi Corps ships on screen - I have a picture of a shuttle carrying Black Omega fighters in my head, but I have a feeling that isn't official.

was watching season 4 last night .... Episode 7 Epiphanies, look at the cover of B5 rpg "Cold Equations"
 
We do see the converted freighter (or whatever it is) launching Black Omegas, and the aforementoned part of a motheship. I don't think there's any others, except the Hunter of course ;)
 
Taran said:
We see the Psi Corps Omegas...

do you mean the Shadow omegas? they were actually controlled by President clark and his loyalists, and as far as we know didn't have any telepaths on board. they were just put in the psi corp list as more of a black ops ship than anything telepathic.
 
Blacks Ops
(Nemesis)
Shadow Omega
Hunter
(Shadowcloak)
(Shadowfury)

Psi Corps
Mothership
Fighter Carrier
Black Omega Starfury

However, although the two are separate arms of the Clark regime and in later years of certain EA political and military factions, their overall goals often overlap and both have access to EA regulars as allies. If you want to play a "pure" faction then that is still your choice :)
 
well the shadow omegas only have a one episode ISD. and the psi-corps got killed off a couple of years after formation of ISA.
also the mothership never left hyperspace. it was a hub of operations for psi-corps that was hidden in HS.
 
It's not hard to imagine them actually manipulating him, though, is it? Who's going to protect the president from telepathic influence if Psi Corps is behind that influence?
 
Whichever way around the influences were going, the people pulling the strings, the ships, and the telepaths are all still around after the Psi Corps is pulled down (restructured!). Given the intended main plot for Crusade (black ops EA) along with most of the "behind the scenes" telepaths going to ground but still trying to run the show, the mixed fleet isn't unrealistic, particularly if things came to an all-out war.
 
Yeah, they may have been a government arm at one point, but they were the arm with all the secrets. Very easy to see them go rogue and take all the goodies with them as Clark was falling. I always figured the 'secret service' equivalent had its own hidden cache of telepaths anyway, just to keep the Corp in line and watch for tampering.

Given the number of black projects the Corp itself had running we're talking some seriously scary folks here.

As to the Shadow Omega...I always went with the theory that we saw all the ones complete enough to thrown into the field, not necessarily all of them. Psi Corp just runs off with the rest and finishes them up. There is no reason to believe that the ISA found all the materials, production models and equipment. Given they were being made in a secret local, who gave up the secret when Clark fell?

ripple
 
Ripple said:
Yeah, they may have been a government arm at one point, but they were the arm with all the secrets. Very easy to see them go rogue and take all the goodies with them as Clark was falling. I always figured the 'secret service' equivalent had its own hidden cache of telepaths anyway, just to keep the Corp in line and watch for tampering.

Well, where would those Teeps have come from? My money says they would have been PsiCorps trained...
 
Greg Smith said:
Which episodes do we see the Psi Corps mother ship on screen? There is a glimpse of it in 'The Corps is the Mother...', but we don't see the whole thing. Is it shown anywhere else?

Do we see any other Psi Corps ships on screen - I have a picture of a shuttle carrying Black Omega fighters in my head, but I have a feeling that isn't official.

Mothership, Black Omega Fighters and the fighter carrying Shuttle are the only official ones shown in the series.

Shadow Omega is under Clark`s control only.

Shadow Hunter was a EA black project (info from the unmade Crusade scripts).

all else is non series conjecture.
 
Taran said:
Ripple said:
Yeah, they may have been a government arm at one point, but they were the arm with all the secrets. Very easy to see them go rogue and take all the goodies with them as Clark was falling. I always figured the 'secret service' equivalent had its own hidden cache of telepaths anyway, just to keep the Corp in line and watch for tampering.

Well, where would those Teeps have come from? My money says they would have been PsiCorps trained...
Psi Corps trained definitely, as would every other teep out there too. Just because they were Psi Corps trained initially, doesn't mean to say that they would disappear when the Psi Corps fell. I'd be willing to bet at least a few wouldn't give up their power that easily...
 
That wasn't my point.

My point was that if the Teeps put in position to make sure the PsiCorps played nice were PsiCorps trained, then they would have actually facilitated any plans PsiCorps had for controlling Clark. Thus lending weight to my suggestion that PsiCorps was really controlling Clark the whole time and that all the EA "black" projects, like the Hunter and Shadow Omega, were really PsiCorps projects. Like the Teeps modified to control Shadow vessels (unsuccessfully, iirc).
 
Taran said:
That wasn't my point.

My point was that if the Teeps put in position to make sure the PsiCorps played nice were PsiCorps trained, then they would have actually facilitated any plans PsiCorps had for controlling Clark. Thus lending weight to my suggestion that PsiCorps was really controlling Clark the whole time and that all the EA "black" projects, like the Hunter and Shadow Omega, were really PsiCorps projects. Like the Teeps modified to control Shadow vessels (unsuccessfully, iirc).
I understand...that's a definite possibility.
 
Jal said:
Mothership, Black Omega Fighters and the fighter carrying Shuttle are the only official ones shown in the series.

Shadow Omega is under Clark`s control only.

Shadow Hunter was a EA black project (info from the unmade Crusade scripts).

all else is non series conjecture.

I was refering to ships operated by Psi Corps in the series, rather than ships included in the Psi Corps fleet in the game.

After Derina pointed out Epihanies, I watched it tonight. The shuttle does carry fighters, but it is accompanied by a second shuttle which isn't carrying fighters.

Taran said:
My point was that if the Teeps put in position to make sure the PsiCorps played nice were PsiCorps trained, then they would have actually facilitated any plans PsiCorps had for controlling Clark. Thus lending weight to my suggestion that PsiCorps was really controlling Clark the whole time and that all the EA "black" projects, like the Hunter and Shadow Omega, were really PsiCorps projects. Like the Teeps modified to control Shadow vessels (unsuccessfully, iirc).

Interesting conjecture. I tend to think that the Shadows and Psi Corps both used Clark, and Clark used them right back.

I don't think the Teeps modified to control Shadow ships was done by Psi Corps, since it involved organic tech (Franklin says so in 'Epiphanies'). We don't know whether it was succesful, since they never got there - they were intercepted by Bester and Sheridan.
 
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