Poseidon Class Super carrier Variant.

[Valen is my name]

i wish they'd leave them alone, although i only have two they are always in my EA fleet. i never leaave them out, they are too good to be ignored, just hope it will stay that way. whats going to be the main raid level pl for crusade era in 2e then?

 

[alien027]

i wish they'd leave them alone, although i only have two they are always in my EA fleet. i never leaave them out, they are too good to be ignored, just hope it will stay that way. whats going to be the main raid level pl for crusade era in 2e then?

If you talking about the EA Chronos, some tell me tahn will change to skirmish and will loose some AD. which is the other ship?

 

[Valen is my name]

the other good ship for planetary assault is the apollo. i guess apollos and chronos with an avenger with t-bolts should be able to handle almost all planets

 

[alien027]

I don't think you can use an Avenge with the Apollo and the Chronos.

 

[Valen is my name]

can't you? is there an ISD end for the avenger? there shouldn't be as the fluff says they stayed in service for a long time even after the poseidons because they were cheaper and still useful

 

[H]

they are in different fleet lists. The appollo and chronos are crusade ea, while the avenger are early and mid.

as for the Chronos, one of the playtesters stated it is becoming skirmish, I did ask about a new raid ship but I suspect non of them want to give any more away, so I suspect at raid will be the Hyperion still, the Delphi and the explorer. I suggested a "heavy Chronos" for raid keeping it's current stats, but no one answered that either :-(

 

[alien027]

I don't know, But EA list is get in smaller each time. remember than you have 3 eras and you can't use all you ships.

 

[Greg Smith]

as for the Chronos, one of the playtesters stated it is becoming skirmish, I did ask about a new raid ship but I suspect non of them want to give any more away, so I suspect at raid will be the Hyperion still, the Delphi and the explorer.

Crusade EA do get a several new ships/variants/fighters but not at raid. So you are pretty much spot on about the ships at raid.

 

[alien027]

as for the Chronos, one of the playtesters stated it is becoming skirmish, I did ask about a new raid ship but I suspect non of them want to give any more away, so I suspect at raid will be the Hyperion still, the Delphi and the explorer.

Crusade EA do get a several new ships/variants/fighters but not at raid. So you are pretty much spot on about the ships at raid.

Did you said fighters? at crusade era? Not the Starfury and the Thunderbolt? WoW!

And other thing, the Marathon now is battle, But It supost to be the replacement for the Hyperion. This mean than the marathon should be at raid level?

 

[H]

as for the Chronos, one of the playtesters stated it is becoming skirmish, I did ask about a new raid ship but I suspect non of them want to give any more away, so I suspect at raid will be the Hyperion still, the Delphi and the explorer.

Crusade EA do get a several new ships/variants/fighters but not at raid. So you are pretty much spot on about the ships at raid.

could i possibly ask why the Chronos is being moved, as it's a very popular ship?

 

[Greg Smith]

You can ask. I've just gone back through my emails from around October/November when we were working on the EA and I can't see one with an explanation, but that is around the time I lost a bunch of stuff due to a hard drive crash. So I can't tell you, sorry.

 

[Triggy]

IIRC it was a gameplay choice - ensuring Crusade EA had options at lower PLs. So long as the Hyperion remains viable then this does balance the fleet out even if there aren't too many other reasons for it. (at least it's a cheap ship so can be bought in larger numbers and it certainly is a good buy now)

 

[H]

I just think it's a shame as it's a popular raid ship choice, that isn't overpowered, but used properly is a fine platform.
seriously I would love you guys to consider a heavy or advanced varient at raid with the current stats, or at least tweaks to make second ed compatible. If not, then bugger! i'll be stuck with the horrible Hyperion!

quick edit** but I appreciate a certain number of EA players complained at their low end choices, grr, I shake my fist at them! :wink:

 

[alien027]

The situation is to see how the game change in E2 and the ships refit and pl level. Then we will see how each race change.

 

[Target]

Being a Centauri player, I never rated the Chronos. It was just VP's.
It's uses are for foe's that have neither Beams or Interceptors. Pretty much leaves you Vree & Dilgar mainly.
I like the idea of the Chronos being skirmish since it was the replacement for the Olympus which was better than a Chronos. The Marathon would be good at raid if the Crusade era was going to be all new ships. Suppose you could paint the Hyperion dark grey. I like the Marathon, Nemeisis & Apollo style models. Never very impressed with the Chronos as a model either just lacked something. What i would have crusade era as in models not current stats.
Patrol- Fighters, Myrimdon ( not sure on that model either )
Skirmish- Chronos, Delphi
Raid- Marathon, New Nova type ( The Quaser design is out there somewhere) and/or Light Carrier ship or maybe Battle
Battle- Nemeisis, Apollo
War - Warlock, Poseidon
No Armagedon ships for younger races is another.

 

[locarno24]

Did you said fighters? at crusade era? Not the Starfury and the Thunderbolt? WoW!

Supposedly, in addition to the current ones:
Starfury Tiger (early)
Starfury Nova/Aurora (the generic 'starfury' for all eras)
Starfury Thunderbolt (the 'thud' that is so beloved of EA players)

we're also getting:
Starfury Firebolt (a crusade-era advanced thunderbolt)
Shadowfury (black ops fleet shadowtech-enhanced fighter)

Or so go the highly steaming rumours, at least.

I appreciate a certain number of EA players complained at their low end choices, grr, I shake my fist at them!

In which I join you.

The later-era more advanced fleets SHOULD be light on low-end ship types, and you still have the Hermes-class missile boat (one of the best patrol ships out there!) AND the Myrmidon-class (which I've not seen used, but certainly looks to have a ****load of guns for its weight)

An advanced replacement for the Olympus should cost more than an Olympus - hence it should be raid-level. If you don't think the olympus is raid-worthy, fine. Beef it up, don't drop it to skirmish - or it kind of voids the point of 'advanced vessels'. The same goes for the Marathon-class advanced cruiser. It is a battleship, and frankly a damn good one.

No Armagedon ships for younger races is another.

As has been said in a couple of threads, building an armageddon priority ship means 'this ship should beat a Sharlin-class warcruiser or a Vorlon Cruiser without breaking a sweat'.

Younger races should NOT have that capability without a VERY good explanation...EA will have access to armageddon-priority ships, but only via the Shadow-tech in the black ops fleet - the key one being the Nemesis-class destroyer.

How does a Shadow or Vorlon win a Planetary Assault with no troops, anyways?

They don't. If you read the scenarios section, Shadows and Vorlons never need to fight planetary assault missions - the justification being that on the offensive they'd just use a planet killer if the need ever came up, and a vorlon or shadow world's planetary defence grid is described as making any attempt at a planetary assault tantamount to suicide...

well we have a hate of blackpool in common.
carry on at this rate we may end the north south divide! actually thats going a bit far isnt it

Meh. I live practically next to the place and hate it as well.

By the way - given the two pages of burbling on ice cream, I think we have a new winner for 'most random drifting off topic'. You therefore win an ice cream.

 

[H]

Being a Centauri player, I never rated the Chronos. It was just VP's.
It's uses are for foe's that have neither Beams or Interceptors. Pretty much leaves you Vree & Dilgar mainly.
I like the idea of the Chronos being skirmish since it was the replacement for the Olympus which was better than a Chronos. The Marathon would be good at raid if the Crusade era was going to be all new ships. Suppose you could paint the Hyperion dark grey. I like the Marathon, Nemeisis & Apollo style models. Never very impressed with the Chronos as a model either just lacked something. What i would have crusade era as in models not current stats.
Patrol- Fighters, Myrimdon ( not sure on that model either )
Skirmish- Chronos, Delphi
Raid- Marathon, New Nova type ( The Quaser design is out there somewhere) and/or Light Carrier ship or maybe Battle
Battle- Nemeisis, Apollo
War - Warlock, Poseidon
No Armagedon ships for younger races is another.

the nemesis is not in the 2nd ed EA list, as it is a psi corp ship.

 

[Greg Smith]

Supposedly, in addition to the current ones:
Starfury Tiger (early)
Starfury Nova/Aurora (the generic 'starfury' for all eras)
Starfury Thunderbolt (the 'thud' that is so beloved of EA players)

we're also getting:
Starfury Firebolt (a crusade-era advanced thunderbolt)
Shadowfury (black ops fleet shadowtech-enhanced fighter)

I can think of one more EA fighter. And the Nova and Aurora aren't one and the same.

 

[Tank]

Badger!
Badger!
Badger!


As to the Chronos, my experiences with it colour my view but if it was given 5 more boxes of damage/crew and 2" extra speed Id be happier with the current version

 

[H]

yeah, but you play against flueky dice rollers like reaverman ;-)