nekomata fuyu
Mongoose
Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. The emine will still be a weird weapon that makes the Narn and Gaim unique (ignoring the Brakiri, Pak'Ma'Ra and EA).
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nekomata fuyu
Mongoose
If the problem is balance, people should say that instead of "Oh, but the emine is unique to the Narn and Gaim (with a few exceptions)".
The first shot in the game with a Shadow ship fireing on a Sharlin who instantly exploded at a battle level game got the Minbari player to concede as well and I don't think that it's broken because of that.Hindsight said:
You have to give more information than that to convince me that it would unbalance the game.
You're describing something that was built into the Shadow Vessels from the start, and comparing it to something that is being added, without a clear sense of balance.Scipio said:
This is something the EA didn't have yesterday, they have it today. Did they need it? I don't think they needed this much of a buff.
Yes it's a valid point with an all WS fleet against an all Saggi-fleet.CZuschlag said:
But I think that putting OS weapons in SL systems is what makes it less of an disadvantage than it really should be as you in reality only loose 3 dice a turn after your OS shot.
Why not halving the ADs on the nuke when puting it on SL systems?
CZuschlag
Mongoose
On the Slow-Loading idea .... I've got to think, here. If the Saggi player gets to pull the All Stop and Pivot trick and gets the other arc to fire the very next turn, I still think it's Game Over, it just takes 2 turns, not one.
Perhaps the Fusion Missile also needs an impactful range restriction. 12-20", maybe? Make it so you don't get to fire everything without response. This update would be on all generations (Crusade, 3rd, etc.)
Perhaps the Fusion Missile also needs an impactful range restriction. 12-20", maybe? Make it so you don't get to fire everything without response. This update would be on all generations (Crusade, 3rd, etc.)
eldiablito
Mongoose
Scipio said:
Only if they survive the initial volley of SAP, TD attacks that ignore their dodge roll...
Honestly, even the Chronos with these weapons are too nasty to really explain with any justice.
stepan.razin
Mongoose
Lone Gunman said:
Because the Escort Chronos will not be able to CBD.
stepan.razin
Mongoose
Personally, I am all for giving each fleet an emine effect in one way or another... but SAP TD is too much.
I say, make it AP TD OS, and restrict it to the bigger ships (raid +).
I say, make it AP TD OS, and restrict it to the bigger ships (raid +).
EA with Interceptors and Fusion Missiles gets me thinking back to the old Star Control video game. Earth had one ship. It wasn't very maneuverable, had point defense lasers, and its only offensive weapon was a big nuclear missile.
Back to ACTA, I agree that fusion missiles in Early EA might be a bit over the top given the overall strength of the Early EA fleet compared to the "later" fleets. As to the e-mine question, I kind of like the idea of killing Dag'kars with e-mines. Dirty, dirty Dag'kars........
Back to ACTA, I agree that fusion missiles in Early EA might be a bit over the top given the overall strength of the Early EA fleet compared to the "later" fleets. As to the e-mine question, I kind of like the idea of killing Dag'kars with e-mines. Dirty, dirty Dag'kars........
l33tpenguin
Mongoose
There needs to be a stop put on the proliferation of e-mine-like effects. It really voids out the usability of fighters if EVERYONE has an e-mine.
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
Grunvald said:Same for the reason for having Dodge on a ship if every fleet has uber amounts of e-mine effect weaponry!
(waves bye bye to the white-stars)
Most races have no effective counter to White Stars but concentrating heavy firepower on them and hoping to see a lot of 1s on the dodge rolls. I can't see a Liati slaughtering White Stars; it might beat a couple but they'll soon kill it, and who else has a ship with accurate weapons to take them on?
