Ongoing Project: Close Air Support

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This is an ongoing little project and as I have finished building the first wave of my Close Air support Assets I thought I would share some pictures. As I don't have that much free time for this do excuse that the aircraft aren't yet painted. I'll add more as time progresses if there is any interest. To start with I just wanted to see what was possible to do in a reasonable period of time while waiting for the new MGP stuff to come out. I have not really built model kits in years, but with time this became rather enjoyable. The idea is not to make and paint the best aircraft around, but to make something which fits into the game, is realistic and visually appealing. I have not yet decided on some of the final paint schemes or how I will base them. (They are all 1/72 and they fit in just fine with everything else I would say)

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First off. Fairly basic AH-1W Super Cobra. Rugged and robust, supports Marines where ever needed. The one clear advantage the MGP aircraft will have in my opinion is that they will be a lot more robust. Helicopters have the tendency to lose their rotors and they snap off so easily. Think that the hard but flexible plastic of the MGP will be better suited to games.

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This is my favourite helicopter, introducing the RAH-66 Comanche. Yes ok it was shelved back in 2004, but a good case can be made for it making a come back sometime around 2015. And with it a full weapon load it looks amazing. This was a pain to put together, and not everything is aligned, but I do like it. I have no idea how to paint it yet as the 2 prototypes were only in NATO Olive as far as I can see. So i have to think about that still.

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This has to be the only aircraft which will actually get up close to provide air support, even in 2015 (Harrier excepted if that is still around, which it will be). The A-10. And I think it pretty much speaks for itself. I can't quite see JSF, Typhoons and Raptors coming in that low to warrant a model (not that this is really a reason not to make one eventually). That's about the maximum sized model I would want to see on the table. At this stage I ran out of primer so it will have to wait until next week or so to be painted.
 
Warthog FTW!

I saw one of those make a one pass on a convoy of 5 Warsaw Pact tanks and various support vehicles all bunched up together nice for him on a straight stretch of road just in front of the hill he came screaming over to light them up. 1 pass, and I didn't see a single vehicle moving, several were burning and 2 had catastrophic failures to stay together! All were disabled.

Those birds are awe-inspiring! I read somewhere on an aircraft recognition card the A-10 could carry more explosive ordinance than the USS Missouri did in WWII. Until that day I thought the zoomies were just blowing smoke. After that day, I believe it.

Excellent pics btw. Can't wait to see them all purty'd up for play.
 
If there is any one on the Riverside SB ariea on the 31st there is an free air show [$5.00 parking] that is going to have a A-10 and P-51 do a formation fly over. you do not relise how big an A-10 is untill you see it next to a P-51.
 
Anpu42 said:
If there is any one on the Riverside SB ariea on the 31st there is an free air show [$5.00 parking] that is going to have a A-10 and P-51 do a formation fly over. you do not relise how big an A-10 is untill you see it next to a P-51.

Nor do you realize how LOUD :shock: it is until it flies over. :wink:

Evil, how much of the helicopter did you do freehand and how much is decal? Your models continue to impress the living heck out of me!
 
spray cans, black paint. wash, decal then dry brush.

can but heli after dinner and have it built and finished by 9 in the evening on average :) its the drying time thats the killer as well as the building grrrr
 
Just a couple of things: yes the A-10 is a bad plane but there is no way it can carry more ordinance that a Battleship. A ww2 bomber yes, BB no.
Also the USMC is going to phase out the Harrier witha VTOL version of the JSF.
 
sassgt said:
Just a couple of things: yes the A-10 is a bad plane but there is no way it can carry more ordinance that a Battleship. A ww2 bomber yes, BB no.
Also the USMC is going to phase out the Harrier witha VTOL version of the JSF.

That struck me as a rather bizarre quote as well, maybe meant it could deliver more firepower in a sustained burst than a Battleship which I could just about imagine.

I always remember one of my mates who had seen them in action saying he could never get over the sound they make when they open up with their cannon, he said it was something akin to Satan ripping his way into this reality. (He was in the Warrior behind the 2 that got shot up by A-10s in the 1st Gulf War).
 
I've got you all beat...when my family was stationed in England we lived on a base that supported A-10 squadrons. The school yard was right up against the fence line of the airfield.
 
Hiromoon said:
I've got you all beat...when my family was stationed in England we lived on a base that supported A-10 squadrons. The school yard was right up against the fence line of the airfield.

Did you ever get to hear one fire in anger? I used to live beside Otterburn where they used to do live fire excersises, we often used to have the High Brass staying at our farm B&B, got to go with them a couple of times to watch the excercises, never got to see an A-10 fire up close though. Hearing them from a couple of miles away was bad enough.

My mate still has nightmares about when they came under fire from them, and he was in a Warrior, lord alone knows what it must like to be out in the open when they open up on you. (Think he has us both beaten)
 
sassgt said:
Just a couple of things: yes the A-10 is a bad plane but there is no way it can carry more ordinance that a Battleship. A ww2 bomber yes, BB no.
Also the USMC is going to phase out the Harrier witha VTOL version of the JSF.

Check my phrasing slightly closer, as I questioned the Air Force guy about this claim in the pamphlet I read it in. It says "Explosive" ordinance, which is to say kinetic explosive damaging energy, not number of rounds.

Heck, a fully-laden A-10 with rockets, bombs, missiles, and of course the GAU cannon the rest of the plane is wrapped around can probably dump everything in under 20 seconds.

It is the resulting down-range destruction to which they were referring. The pylons can hold 16,000 lbs of ordnance. With today's explosive weaponry I think the Air Force meant it could do more damage down-range. Those Mavericks and Paveways make for some spectacular bangs on target!

*Edit Added in* Come to think of it, I don't believe it said ordinance but rather firepower. I don't recall as this was something I read back in the 70s. Perhaps my choice of wording is cause for alarm here. I do know it said "explosive" something. Either way, it is impressive what they can destroy.
 
Ever see a regimental Time on Target from the hill. A-10 couldn't do that much damage a once. By the way 16'' shells weigh about 2100 a piece x 9 barrels + 5" guns!
 
Ah, the memories of getting buzzed by an A-10, I'd probably have nightmares if is wasn't so fricking cool.

When I was a teen they still had a group of A-10's based out of Moody AFB in S. Georgia. Our part of N Florida was their playground as it was sparsely populated, but had plenty of low hills, woodland and open fields intermixed... fields containing large farm equipment on most days over the summer...yeah, you get the idea

First time I ever saw one in flight I was on a tractor in the middle of a tobacco patch and the sob came over the treeline behind me at a couple hundred feet up, stood it on a wing and pointed that nose gun at me... looked like a bloody eclipse... he screams back over, wags his wings and heads north leaving me with a stunned, goofy smile and about 8 field hands running as fast as they could go in as many different directions :D. must've seen those A-10s a dozen times over the next few years doing that sort of thing
 
cordas said:
Did you ever get to hear one fire in anger? I used to live beside Otterburn where they used to do live fire excersises, we often used to have the High Brass staying at our farm B&B, got to go with them a couple of times to watch the excercises, never got to see an A-10 fire up close though. Hearing them from a couple of miles away was bad enough.

My mate still has nightmares about when they came under fire from them, and he was in a Warrior, lord alone knows what it must like to be out in the open when they open up on you. (Think he has us both beaten)

Am I the only one here thinking those pilots should have been flogged within an inch of their lives then faced a firing squad?
 
i cant see the A10 being in the game to behonest its a one chnce fly over weapon, hits its target and goese home to re'arm, not a tacticle strike craft, thats more th job for true air power and attack copters..

the caomanch isnt gonna make it as the super cobra has grabed that budget and the comanch is way to pretty to ever be used by the usmc.
 
Mr Evil said:
i cant see the A10 being in the game to behonest its a one chnce fly over weapon, hits its target and goese home to re'arm, not a tacticle strike craft, thats more th job for true air power and attack copters..

the caomanch isnt gonna make it as the super cobra has grabed that budget and the comanch is way to pretty to ever be used by the usmc.

The A-10 is a tactical strike aircraft with Close Air Support as its main mission. With 11 weapon hard points it is most certainly not a one chance weapon, and then there is the GAU-8 which is also everything but a single shot weapon.

The Comache would be something for the US Army.
 
A10s follow a path do the job ad of to next point, they do not loiter aroind a warzone.

id like to see them in bf-evo but i think their out of place for the type of games we are playing.
 
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