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Greg Smith
Mongoose
animus said:I'm with Sue.
If the Omega gets re-written I'll drop a load. Has anyone been screaming for a change in that? I haven't noticed a problem with any EA ships accept the ones knocked up to higher PL's
I think a few housecleaning fixes are better before fixing something that ain't broken. Now we have the SM T'Rakk too. Sigh.....
People have been complaining that the EA don't have a decent War-level choice. An improved Command Omega would help rectify that (I know, so would returning the Warlock to war).
Exactly, people have been most voiciferous over lack of a decent EA War level choice and this allows them to have one at least whilst the Warlock's position is reviewed for the future.Greg Smith said:animus said:I'm with Sue.
If the Omega gets re-written I'll drop a load. Has anyone been screaming for a change in that? I haven't noticed a problem with any EA ships accept the ones knocked up to higher PL's
I think a few housecleaning fixes are better before fixing something that ain't broken. Now we have the SM T'Rakk too. Sigh.....
People have been complaining that the EA don't have a decent War-level choice. An improved Command Omega would help rectify that (I know, so would returning the Warlock to war).
Partly...
The Warlock debate is partly fueled by the lack of a War level ship but also by the precieved devaluing of the models folks already owned (who needs multiple Arm. ships?), by the fluff of EA going from dead last among the big five races to surpassing a sharlin in very little time, and the view that EA does not need multiple Arm. level choices. The boosting of the Command Omega to fill the role only really addresses one of these arguements, the upside of course is that it will now become the cornerstone of argueing that all command variants be looked at for review to become worthwhile ships.
Ripple
The Warlock debate is partly fueled by the lack of a War level ship but also by the precieved devaluing of the models folks already owned (who needs multiple Arm. ships?), by the fluff of EA going from dead last among the big five races to surpassing a sharlin in very little time, and the view that EA does not need multiple Arm. level choices. The boosting of the Command Omega to fill the role only really addresses one of these arguements, the upside of course is that it will now become the cornerstone of argueing that all command variants be looked at for review to become worthwhile ships.
Ripple
Greg Smith said:
Well yeah, but people have been complaining about the lack of Armageddon ships for the Dilgar and Drakh, a lack of a decent Battle level choice for the Narn and any gods amount of other deficiencies. To release this straight after Armageddon's release with different stats is simply yet more proof that Armageddon is an incomplete book that was simply rushed and not thought through. Armageddon should never have happened.
It is annoying but I'd rather see the Command Omega be useful rather than be a lemon even if it takes this update. Same goes for the Command Hyperion, G'Quonth, G'Tal, Kutai, White Star Gunship and a few others. Rest assured 2nd ed is looking at these ships amongst every other one and shouldn't have any overpowered ships and few underpowered ones.
CodeofArms
Mongoose
Yeah; i opened a thread a while ago with a bunch of suggestions to revise it, mainly i was pushing a revision because the Warlock was bumped a level to Armageddon next to the Nemisis which was...an interesting tweak to say the least.
In the thread I opened (http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23293&highlight=omega) I believe one of the Admins stated a new mini with some revised stats. We have got half that statement at least in the revised model for it - so we'll probably see new stats too.
prelude_to_war
Mongoose
When will it be published/made official?
(and then revised?)
(and then revised?)
bloody pathetic. My flames of war stuff has had one revision in about 5 years, every week a ACTA ship gets a re-stat, sigh
I'm sure it's a cynical marketing decision.
oh look, we stripped the EA of a decent war ship, lets wait a bit till the ea players are a bit angry, then release a new model for the comand omega, and then release new stats so everyone wants one.
But what about the players who bought the drakh mothership and don't have it?
Screw em, theirs more money in the EA. . .
Now thats just my cynical mind backed up by a marketing diploma. . . makes perfect business sense.
I'm sure it's a cynical marketing decision.
oh look, we stripped the EA of a decent war ship, lets wait a bit till the ea players are a bit angry, then release a new model for the comand omega, and then release new stats so everyone wants one.
But what about the players who bought the drakh mothership and don't have it?
Screw em, theirs more money in the EA. . .
Now thats just my cynical mind backed up by a marketing diploma. . . makes perfect business sense.
TenaciousB
Mongoose
hiffano said:
And to think people laughed at my conspiracy theories about the Saggitarius!!!! :shock:
Foil hats out, boys - we'll be needin' 'em for a while yet! :lol:
Seriously, tho - Hiff, again you hit the nail on the head.
Thankfully this statement is totally wrong on it being deliberate (as a marketing ploy or otherwise). It's simply an underpowered/overpowered ship slipping through the net and either people not noticing (Sagittarius) or not thinking the issue is worthy of dedicating too much time too (Command Omega). When there is more time (after the major release), Mongoose revisits these little areas and tries to rectify them. The reason EA gets this amount of attention at the moment is because it just had its fleet totally redesigned and needed some things sorting out more than others (extra Dilgar and Drakh ships come way, way down on this list of priorities), especially where matters of fleet balance come into play.TenaciousB said:
so it's perfectly justifiable to release a whole new model for the EA command Omega, and indeed the T'Rakk, while people have been waiting 6 months for an armageddon mothership, just because the EA got a split fleet list.
hmmmm. . . .
I would like to go on record as saying what a load of bollocks.
hmmmm. . . .
I would like to go on record as saying what a load of bollocks.
The EA actually had a gaping hole in a non-Armageddon PL in their fleet lists (yeah this was a mistake, doesn't mean it didn't happen though), the Drakh don't. Thankfully it doesn't mean a Drakh Armageddon PL Mothership isn't being considered though, it's a ship I suggested a long time ago and hope to see come to fruitionhiffano said:
