Nova Idea--Bring Back Laser/Pulse Arrays

[Greg Smith]

If we are going to turn every 3ed Age and Crusade Era Heavy Pulse Cannon into a L/P array, then the Excalibur is included.

Actually that may not be a bad thing since its pop-up turret fires both yellow beams and pulse cannons.

But I guess I would advocate select ships to have them.

 

[Burger]

I would say just the Nova, it was a good unique feature it had.
Maybe Marathon too.

 

[Lord David the Denied]

If we are going to turn every 3ed Age and Crusade Era Heavy Pulse Cannon into a L/P array, then the Excalibur is included.

Actually that may not be a bad thing since its pop-up turret fires both yellow beams and pulse cannons.

But I guess I would advocate select ships to have them.

Actually it fired the green Minbari beams...

 

[katadder]

due to the excalibur being an ISA ship on loan it wouldnt have to be included.
I see all ships with heavy pulse having this rather than just the nova especially by crusade era as an advanced form of tech.

 

[Methos5000]

due to the excalibur being an ISA ship on loan it wouldnt have to be included.
I see all ships with heavy pulse having this rather than just the nova especially by crusade era as an advanced form of tech.

But the heavy pulse cannon on the Victory/Excalibur IS EA technology, why would it be the only advanced warship that would not get the advanced technology?

Peon: Sir, We are suppose to provide some Heavy Pulse cannons for the Victory project.
Commander: Hmm...send them the 30 year old ones we have collecting dust in the warehouse.

If you want to say ALL ships with heavy Pulse cannons the the Victory/Excalicbur has to be included in that as that weapon system IS Earth Alliance technolgy.

 

[katadder]

yes but EA might not want to send them the best so send as you say the ones collecting dust. plus it was a fairly secret project anyway at time of excalibur.

 

[Foxmeister]

And what would all the other fleets be getting in return for this EA buff that for the most part they don't need?

Regards,

Dave

 

[Greg Smith]

Actually it fired the green Minbari beams...

Picky.

Could be either.

 

[Burger]

And what would all the other fleets be getting in return for this EA buff that for the most part they don't need?

Cookies?

 

[Greg Smith]

And what would all the other fleets be getting in return for this EA buff that for the most part they don't need?

Hunting packs, Alpha Strike, Web of Death, improved CBD, extractor beams, mind scream, attack run ...

 

[Foxmeister]

Hunting packs, Alpha Strike, Web of Death, improved CBD, extractor beams, mind scream, attack run ...

Not much of a trade - I'll take more flexible weapons myself please!

Regards,

Dave

 

[Foxmeister]

Hunting packs, Alpha Strike, Web of Death, improved CBD, extractor beams, mind scream, attack run ...

Oh, you forgot to mention Fusion Missile in your list too...

Regards,

Dave

 

[katadder]

Hunting packs, Alpha Strike, Web of Death, improved CBD, extractor beams, mind scream, attack run ...

Oh, you forgot to mention Fusion Missile in your list too...

Regards,

Dave

for me this would be instead of and something the player base asked for rather than something they dont want (e-mines for yet another race).

 

[Foxmeister]

for me this would be instead of and something the player base asked for rather than something they dont want (e-mines for yet another race).

How come the same logic isn't being applied to the G'Quan then? Apologies for bringing the G'Quan up again, but it's becoming a personal crusade for me now!

For the record, I have an EA fleet and I really don't see how this is justified.

Just my opinion of course!

Regards,

Dave

 

[katadder]

all we ever got asked for from the g'quan was to be tougher and get more beam dice. guess what it got that.
now it has that people are asking for increased secondaries and better crit protection. if it were to get that people would be asking for other stuff.
the revamped g'quan is fine as i think it can take an omega which is the closest ship to it due to having 17 more damage. thats over a 3rd more

 

[Methos5000]

yes but EA might not want to send them the best so send as you say the ones collecting dust. plus it was a fairly secret project anyway at time of excalibur.

However your point was All Heavy Pulse cannons for EA. The implication being that there was never an alternative Heavy Pulse cannon it is just a functionality of the Heavy Pulse Cannon to be able to do that. The Heavy Pulse Cannon on the Victory Class Destroyers is an EA Heavy Pulse Cannon. If all of them have this functionality by default (it is designed into the weapon system not something "tacked on" after the ship was built) then the Victory Class ones would also have that functionality.

Otherwise you would be saying all HPC are not created equal....wouldn't that disrupt your argument against different priority level resistance to crits(battle levels resisting crits from skrimish levels easier, for example)? The HPC on the Warlock is the same HPC on the Chronos the Warlock just has more of them..well the Victory/Excalibur has a large turreted array of them, would they not be an identical weapon system if all weapon system with the same name are identical except for AD?

And if there is an "older" HPC system then not all EA ships should have the fancy new ones, certainly not the Nova that was phased out when all the fancy crusade ships rolled in since the concept is that it is an advanced technology.

For you all statement to be true they would have to rename the Victory/Excalibur weapon system to something else because it is NOT a HPC if it doesn't function like every other HPC.

I am mainly playing Devil's advocate here, I don't think the Victory class needs it but to say every EA design HPC except for the ones on the Victory Class have this feature seems a little odd. Top Secret projects are usually the ones that get the most expensive and high tech toys(at least in Sci-fi).

 

[Foxmeister]

all we ever got asked for from the g'quan was to be tougher and get more beam dice. guess what it got that.

More HPs <> tougher due to the crit system. Read the poll - over 70% of respondents say that it still sucks, ergo it does. This change would just make the disparity between the Omega and the G'Quan even greater.

Against hull 6, 4AD of non-interceptable mini beam hitting on 4s (which can be TL via a Scout) is way better than 8AD of TL interceptable pulse cannon hitting on 6s.

Is the Omega that poor already? The Omega-Pulse? The Apollo-Strike? I don't even want to think about what it does for the Command Omega!

The Nova I can just about see, but other than that I see absolutely *no* justification for it whatsoever.

Regards,

Dave

 

[silashand]

The Laser Pulse Arrays:

I like it. IMO it's much better than yet another missile variant for the EA. IYAM the last thing the EA needs is more missiles! JMO though...

Oh, you forgot to mention Fusion Missile in your list too...

for me this would be instead of and something the player base asked for rather than something they dont want (e-mines for yet another race).

Agreed. Enough people hate emines as it is and realistically I don't know that adding more of them would be a positive thing. Again, JMO.

Cheers, Gary

 

[Da Boss]

I for one am not happy with the Excaliber having 20-30 dice Turreted minibeams - no sir not at all...........

if its to be done - make it a Nova thing.........

 

[silashand]

I for one am not happy with the Excaliber having 20-30 dice Turreted minibeams - no sir not at all...........

if its to be done - make it a Nova thing.........

Agreed. That's what I thought this was for anyway?

Cheers, Gary