Next Career Book?

alex_greene said:
I think you can lump in Merchants and Citizens into one book, same as Drifters and Rogues - whereas Merchants make their trade by buying and selling goods, Citizens make their living by hawking their own trade skills (so, for instance, a Citizen with a free trader could set up his ship as a mobile tailor's studio and convert part of the cargo bay into his workshop).

I disagree; Merchant Prince should have rules for ports, startowns and civilian ships while Citizen should have rules for cities, towns and those parts of worlds outside of the starport. This would be separate enough to warrant separate books.

Though as an aside, a good career for the Citizens book (which must be separate from other books) would be the Traveller - a more middle-class and upper class version of the Wanderer, who isn't a mooch like the Noble: Dilettante.

alex_greene said:
Likewise, you could, in principle, llump together Entertainers and Nobles - both are larger-than-life personalities with vast egos that can only be assuaged by the adulation of millions of Little People. Only one difference: Entertainers work hard at entertaining the people, and Nobles only work hard at irritating them.

H'mm. Since journalism is considered an Entertainment sub career path, you might need to include a bit on investigative journalism in the Entertainers book too - and if so, because they're essentially both research and investigation tasks, and since journalists and scholars both rely upon their notes getting published, maybe then you could throw in Scholars with the Entertainers and Nobles, too.

The second paragraph is why I'd put Entertainers and Nobles as separate enough to warrant separate books: Entertainers can come from any level of society and go anywhere, while nobles (both born and made) are specifically upper-crust. And besides, if you put them together, you won't have room for the TAS reporter!

And no, keep Scholars with a separate book!
 
Jame Rowe said:
alex_greene said:
I think you can lump in Merchants and Citizens into one book, same as Drifters and Rogues - whereas Merchants make their trade by buying and selling goods, Citizens make their living by hawking their own trade skills (so, for instance, a Citizen with a free trader could set up his ship as a mobile tailor's studio and convert part of the cargo bay into his workshop).

I disagree; Merchant Prince should have rules for ports, startowns and civilian ships while Citizen should have rules for cities, towns and those parts of worlds outside of the starport. This would be separate enough to warrant separate books.

Though as an aside, a good career for the Citizens book (which must be separate from other books) would be the Traveller - a more middle-class and upper class version of the Wanderer, who isn't a mooch like the Noble: Dilettante.

alex_greene said:
Likewise, you could, in principle, llump together Entertainers and Nobles - both are larger-than-life personalities with vast egos that can only be assuaged by the adulation of millions of Little People. Only one difference: Entertainers work hard at entertaining the people, and Nobles only work hard at irritating them.

H'mm. Since journalism is considered an Entertainment sub career path, you might need to include a bit on investigative journalism in the Entertainers book too - and if so, because they're essentially both research and investigation tasks, and since journalists and scholars both rely upon their notes getting published, maybe then you could throw in Scholars with the Entertainers and Nobles, too.

The second paragraph is why I'd put Entertainers and Nobles as separate enough to warrant separate books: Entertainers can come from any level of society and go anywhere, while nobles (both born and made) are specifically upper-crust. And besides, if you put them together, you won't have room for the TAS reporter!

And no, keep Scholars with a separate book!

I tend to agree more with Alex. If a member of a Citizen career becomes a Traveler, he's generally more of a freelancer or specialist migrant worker (such as the journeymen artisans of old.) Owning his own shop could slow down the campaign (unless it was a part of the ship as someone mentioned)
Merchants... there's no reason why you can't somehow work cities and markets into the same book with Citizens; barring page space of course. And since it's unlikely that Citizens will need their own ships, we would only need a few merchant freighters.
Scholars, yes I agree they should be a seperate book. There is a lot of subjects to cover from various research to different careers to multiple configurations for science vessels.
Entertainers and Nobles.... I don't know.
 
Nobles could cover governments and how they function on an interstellar level. That could be a big part of the book...

Thinking past the careers and equipment, what additional info would you include in an Entertainer book?

Mercenary has Tickets
Scouts has exploration
Agents has Trust and The Law
Scoundrel has crimes and punishment

Merchants would have expanded (not broken) trade rules
Nobles would have government rules, maybe even rules for setting up Pocket Empires!
Scientist would have research and development rules

What does that leave for Entertainer?
 
Off the top of my (swine-flu-ridden) head, Entertainer would cover:
* Journalism and media stuff
* Sports (zero-g kickboxing, starship races (where the accuracy of your jump and your willingness to risk skimming fuel would affect your speed), weird local events, etc)
* Art
* Possibly passengers in more detail, if that wasn't covered in Merchant
* Loads more odd jobs

I don't think you could easily drag 128 pages out of it, so I would probably combine it with Citizen.

The above is definitely not a hint of anything that's coming (my next Trav book isn't until next year, and it's an adventure, and I've got a fever and no brian anyway. Brain, even.)
 
msprange said:
Bygoneyrs said:
I would think a Scholar book would fit very well into the Traveller scope of things. Such carriers would cover Doctor, Scientist, Researcher and etc.

Penn

Already on the cards!

As an experienced University research scientist, I'd like to help out with this one if at all possible. I'm already on the proof-reading list...
 
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