fusor said:
Lysander said:
Strikes me that I've yet to call someone else a "Troll" on multiple occasions whom I might disagree with...as have you.
Someone who only makes short, snippy, snarky, unconstructive comments at every opportunity and phrases everything as a demand is what I'd call a troll (and he has a reputation as such too). Disagreeing with him has nothing to do with it - it's down to how he presents himself. Maybe if he actually engaged in conversations instead of throwing drive-by snark then he might shake that reputation - it's up to him though.
The game that some want isn't Traveller.
This may shock you, but you don't get to define what is or isn't Traveller for other people. Throughout its incarnations people have called it a ruleset, they've called it a setting, they've even called it both at the same time. Everyone's got their own idea of what "Traveller" is. If one thinks of it as a ruleset, then one can expand and add to that to make it whatever they like. I've run Mad-max like games where people drive through portals into a desert like hyperspace between star systems and called it Traveller, because I used Traveller rules for it. I've totally rewritten all the tech and ship design using FF&S as a base for a different post-apocalyptic setting (and using GURPS Traveller rules for some aspects of it too), and called it Traveller. If I want to strip out the OTU stuff and leave the rules and then add some extra stuff to it to run a cyberpunk game, then you know what? That's still Traveller as far as I'm concerned. Maybe what some people want isn't what YOU'd call Traveller, but you definitely are not justified in telling me or anyone else that the settings we make and run out of the rules "isn't Traveller".
And however many RPG sessions you've run don't make the blindest bit of difference to me - that doesn't give you any authority to argue from in discussions with others. I've gamed with people who do actually find more more realistic, simulation-like games to be "fun". I don't impose what I want to run on them, but I find players who want to play in the games I want to run. But again, you don't get to tell other people what they should or shouldn't consider to be "fun" just because you like more casual, social games. Each to their own.
So maybe instead of lecturing people about how they're having BadWrongFun, you might want to lighten up and accept that others want different things out of games than you do?
Bro, take a deep breath, chill...try the nose versus the mouth-breathing. Stuff down a nitro tablet or two...loosen the drawstring.
In general...just calm down.
I'm cool with the rules as they stand...kind of my point. You're the dude prancing about that wants to change and rewrite them. Still, I'm down with that...its a free country. Nonetheless, I'm not seeking to change the rules other than what they currently are - that's all you. Apparently being cool with the current rules somehow makes me the tyrant imposing my will on you.
"You Go Girl"...do whatever you want. Oprah and I are all behind ya'.
Yet, you've posted roughly 20% of the comments here with half of those being totally judgmental of everyone else's comments and generally browbeating of anyone who differs. I'm assuming you're kidding about the "lecturing" thing given most of the posts you have made.....it's a self-deprecating joke...right? Unless you are, well, like a really, really hostile Dude.
I've always considered self-awareness as a virtue but I never demand it of others...though I recognize those that are clearly lacking of it (as does most everyone, btw). Someone is lecturing here but apparently you've got no mirrors nearby. Admittedly, I surround myself with mirrors since I find myself drawn to gaze at my panther-like physique but all I can see as regards this particular discussion is, well, my panther-like physique....certainly nothing else.
Personally, I've got kids to raise, college tuitions to pay, not-for-profit boards to sit on, corporations to represent or deal with in bankruptcy (as in stressed, usually wealthy, adult people under life-changing circumstances to talk to)............and games to play - lots and lots of games to play. I am a self-admitted geek (with a degree or two, a modest bit of cash and some ongoing financial obligations) who has played imaginary games in my spare time for the last 25 years.
I'm just trying to impart a bit of real-life perspective as to how to have fun with Traveller consistently with an incredibly diverse group of game players to others here on this board that also want to have fun....and play for decades.
What you do is what you do. Good on ya'. Go for it. My sense is whatever you might choose to run is all the fun of a dental chair, though, ...some folks do like pain or the threat of it, anyway...just not anyone I care to hang with.
Seriously, do you really think I could care one miniscule whit as to what you do whether its in your parent's basement or in your childhood bedroom? I'm just trying to speak to those that want to have a little fun playing Traveller and make it fun and accessible for others for months or years at a time.
Good luck to you, though, bro. Good luck dealing with that "hyperspace terrain" issue too (that the current rules tragically TOTALLY fail to address...apparently). Hope your ship makes it through with its undoubted crew of one.
