Milieu 0 ships updated to MgT2

[MasterGwydion]

Depends on how many components are manufactured as early prototypes.

If it's practically the entire vessel, then you have performance comparable to technological level fourteen.

Page 8 of High Guard.

"TECH LEVEL Before you start building your ship, decide on the Tech Level of the shipyard that will construct it. This is the maximum Tech Level available for any given component you add and also serves as the overall Tech Level of the ship itself."

You can have all TL-17 ship components, but it still doesn't make the ship TL-17, since TL-17 shipyards do not exist. So, no. It does not depend at all on how many components are manufactured as prototypes.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Going by the original story line, meson weapon systems are technological level twelve.

Spinal mesons are TL11, teh Ziru Sirka failed to invent them.

If the small bay was available at technological level eleven, the Vilani would have them.

A lot more changes than that...

 

[Sigtrygg]

Page 8 of High Guard.

"TECH LEVEL Before you start building your ship, decide on the Tech Level of the shipyard that will construct it. This is the maximum Tech Level available for any given component you add and also serves as the overall Tech Level of the ship itself."

You can have all TL-17 ship components, but it still doesn't make the ship TL-17, since TL-17 shipyards do not exist. So, no. It does not depend at all on how many components are manufactured as prototypes.

One of the reasons I do not like the experimental TL rules in HG.

A TL15 ship yard can construct an experimental ship that has TL17 every possible system just so long as you take 2 disadvantages for each...

 

[MasterGwydion]

One of the reasons I do not like the experimental TL rules in HG.

A TL15 ship yard can construct an experimental ship that has TL17 every possible system just so long as you take 2 disadvantages for each...

Yes, it can, but by the rules it will still be a TL-15 ship.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

One of the reasons I do not like the experimental TL rules in HG.

A TL15 ship yard can construct an experimental ship that has TL17 every possible system just so long as you take 2 disadvantages for each...

Every item will be double tonnage and 10 times the price.

Build a TL 12 scout with prototype J-5 and it has a 35 ton jump drive and depending on whether you make the price 10 times what the tonnage would be at TL 14 or 10 times the prototype tonnage price it is either ~260 MCr for the drive or 520 MCr. Add the 50 tons of fuel and bridge and you don't have room for much else. That doesn't account for what your disadvantages are, better not take size.

I'd like to see your hypothetical TL 17 prototype made at TL 15 with all components that prototype. Won't be cheap or full featured. Make it simple a 1000 ton freighter with minimal crew and passengers, maximize cargo. Might have J-8 with collectors but still not much cargo would be my guess.

 

[rinku]

However.

It IS reasonable that a TL11 navy might have a few prototype TL12 spinal Meson guns. Especially if they are aware their TL12 neighbour has them on the production line.

Just sayin'.

 

[ottarrus]

Gwydion, I really appreciate your gear-heading so many of these ships. I'm not a number cruncher myself, but It's nice to know that when you need a stat sheet, there's a good likelihood that it's out there.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Gwydion, I really appreciate your gear-heading so many of these ships. I'm not a number cruncher myself, but It's nice to know that when you need a stat sheet, there's a good likelihood that it's out there.

Yeah. I am kind of a dork.

and I seem to have a recent fascination with Milieu 0

 

[ottarrus]

Yeah. I am kind of a dork.

and I seem to have a recent fascination with Milieu 0

My personal interest is the Arbellatra Era after the Civil War. I know what that's like.

 

[Endie]

Really interesting thanks! Detail: why no brig? Are Sylean naval crew very disciplined teetotallers ?

 

[MasterGwydion]

Really interesting thanks! Detail: why no brig? Are Sylean naval crew very disciplined teetotallers ?

They have a brig, it is just marked as "airlock" lolz

 

[MasterGwydion]

My take on a 400-ton Sylean Transport cerca -400 3I. It is designed for the dangerous, pirate-filled 60-parsec 31-jump Annililik Run from Sylea to Vland.

 

[MasterGwydion]

1,100-ton Chanestin C-9 Missile Corvette