Lord David the Denied
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Burger said:
No. It was the beam.
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No. It was the beam.
Clanger
Mongoose
Would like to see Having various types of troops to represent various branches and specialist training. Say elite troop (as a other duties roll or swap out like fighters) get the re-rolls like the Gaim Drones to represent the elite ststus.
Break the troops down into say Defending / Attacking and then into Ship / Planetary. So in that circumstance they get to use the Gaim Warrior ruling.
Break the troops down into say Defending / Attacking and then into Ship / Planetary. So in that circumstance they get to use the Gaim Warrior ruling.
I think a bigger reason is that they cost so much. Not to say they are unbalanced... I've never really used one or seen one used in 2e, so they might be worth every penny of their cost. But they are a big commitment, take up a good chunk of your FAP, and don't add any firepower, just some nifty tricks. Honestly, who is going to take a Sharlin with an admiral when they could take 2 Sharlins instead? Allowing them to be placed on command ships doesn't really help much, and some fleets don't even have any command ships.Da Boss said:
IMO admirals should cost less. Say they cost a ship from the PL below the ship on which they are placed. So a Sharlin with an admiral would cost 1 war and 1 battle point. The only time I even considered taking an admiral was Sheridan on a Victory, where he cost me 1 battle point extra, and gave me the ability to peform All Hands On Deck non-stop
David Anla Shok'
Mongoose
mollari_uk said:
Burger said:I think a bigger reason is that they cost so much. Not to say they are unbalanced... I've never really used one or seen one used in 2e, so they might be worth every penny of their cost. But they are a big commitment, take up a good chunk of your FAP, and don't add any firepower, just some nifty tricks. Honestly, who is going to take a Sharlin with an admiral when they could take 2 Sharlins instead? Allowing them to be placed on command ships doesn't really help much, and some fleets don't even have any command ships.Da Boss said:
IMO admirals should cost less. Say they cost a ship from the PL below the ship on which they are placed. So a Sharlin with an admiral would cost 1 war and 1 battle point. The only time I even considered taking an admiral was Sheridan on a Victory, where he cost me 1 battle point extra, and gave me the ability to peform All Hands On Deck non-stop
I'd quite like a series of Unique Admirals and their ships as a package - eg Jha'Dur on a Unique different Dreadnought you could just put into a game...................
David Anla Shok'
Mongoose
Burger said:
Aside from looking cool and annoying others? It would certainly accentuate the White Stars ability to use all of its weapons while sliding in a direction it will draw less fire from. And, it would look cool.
I might even buy more White Stars...M1ndr1d3rs
Mongoose
David said:
If you decide to do so... Where would you buy them? I'm kinda looking for some FA scale ships as well. How active (and reliable) is AoG?
lastbesthope
Mongoose
David said:
There used to be hyperspace combat rules, aren't they still in 2E?
LBH
David Anla Shok'
Mongoose
M1ndr1d3rs said:
Where there's a will (and a wallet) there's a way.
David Anla Shok'
Mongoose
lastbesthope said:
Hmmm not that I know of...
l33tpenguin
Mongoose
The main use of a 'slide' manuver would be to bring your forward guns to bear without changing your direction of travel and possibly exploiting a weak side.
For instance, an ISA player could have two white stars attack a single larger ship, coming at it parrelle to each other but on oppisite sides.
If attacking a ship with a strong forward battery but weak port and starboard side weapons, if both attacking ships are coming from the same direction, the defending ship can turn to face both of them. If the attacking ships can 'slide' past the defending ship, it is forced to either not retaliate while the attackers are in its wear side arcs or turn to face one attacker or the other, but not both.
For instance, an ISA player could have two white stars attack a single larger ship, coming at it parrelle to each other but on oppisite sides.
If attacking a ship with a strong forward battery but weak port and starboard side weapons, if both attacking ships are coming from the same direction, the defending ship can turn to face both of them. If the attacking ships can 'slide' past the defending ship, it is forced to either not retaliate while the attackers are in its wear side arcs or turn to face one attacker or the other, but not both.
lastbesthope
Mongoose
David said:
They were in one of the Rules Supplements and I'm sure theywere in SFOS or Arma as well.
LBH
Foxmeister
Mongoose
l33tpenguin said:If attacking a ship with a strong forward battery but weak port and starboard side weapons, if both attacking ships are coming from the same direction, the defending ship can turn to face both of them. If the attacking ships can 'slide' past the defending ship, it is forced to either not retaliate while the attackers are in its wear side arcs or turn to face one attacker or the other, but not both.
Given the scenario you present, two Whitestars can still do this by moving into the port/starboard arcs and doing a 90 degree turn.
Regards,
Dave
l33tpenguin
Mongoose
Foxmeister said:l33tpenguin said:If attacking a ship with a strong forward battery but weak port and starboard side weapons, if both attacking ships are coming from the same direction, the defending ship can turn to face both of them. If the attacking ships can 'slide' past the defending ship, it is forced to either not retaliate while the attackers are in its wear side arcs or turn to face one attacker or the other, but not both.
Given the scenario you present, two Whitestars can still do this by moving into the port/starboard arcs and doing a 90 degree turn.
Regards,
Dave
They would then be commited to at least a partial movement in the direction of the turn. This might not be something the player wishes.
Foxmeister
Mongoose
l33tpenguin said:
There are a lot of things a player might wish for but can't have - like a G'Quan that can fire off bore *as they do in the show*, but we can't have everything can we!
As it currently stands, I don't think the WS needs any other tricks to add to its already impressive repertoire. However, personally, I wouldn't mind if the Whitestar was given Vree style SM, but if that was the case it would need to be balanced by losing something elsewhere (perhaps drop Agile and down to 1/90 or 2/45)
Regards,
Dave
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