Marchkeep or Banfi Starport Displacement

Good luck figuring out how you are going to keep the power plant on that thing full of fuel. lmao! Could be fun though. 1,000,000,000dton station. Basic Power Requirements before all modules and such? 100,000,000 Power per turn. TL-15 Fusion Power Plant. 5,000,000dtons of power plant. Fuel per month. 500,000dtons. Fuel per day. Just under 18,000dtons

LMAO!

and that is with it cut down to your 1 Billion dton station. lolz. and also before you add anything else that requires power... lol

The Downport must be massive as well
It’s a manufacturing station in the Pulvis belt in the Glisten system. They’d have to run fuel in from the gas giants and process it on site. It has shipyards and massive docks too.
 
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Is Marchkeep big enough to have a visable shadow on the surface?
Using rough numbers and rounded off math, assuming that the local star appears to be the same size in Mora's sky as our sun, that 10km station could eclipse the star on its long axis out to about 1050km. Since it is not a full disk, you might not actually see a shadow, unless you use pinhole projection, but the light will dim during transit.
 
That is a metric buttload of fuel shuttles.
I'll have to design some big honking fuel shuttles.

The powerplants generate and the station uses: 1,737,993,086 points of power. The station refines 10,000,000 tons of fuel a day. That might be overkill, though they can ship it elsewhere in the system. It's utterly ridiculous and I can't wait to drop it on the players. ;)

I should mention the price tag. TCr 988.613. Is there that much money in the universe? ;)
 
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I'll have to design some big honking fuel shuttles.

The powerplants generate and the station uses: 1,737,993,086 points of power. The station refines 10,000,000 tons of fuel a day. That might be overkill, though they can ship it elsewhere in the system. It's utterly ridiculous and I can't wait to drop it on the players. ;)

I should mention the price tag. TCr 988.613. Is there that much money in the universe? ;)
Only costs half of that to build. lol
 
Also, found this on the wiki under Third Imperium

"Economy: The economic output (gross product) of this polity is estimated at 138,935,068 (BCr) (almost 139 quadrillion credits). "
 
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I feel honoured to be summoned to a bout of the classic 14 vs 13.5 debate! 'Tis a rite of passage for any aspirant Traveller, after all. :p

That aside; I recognise that 14 cubic meters has both the weight of tradition and physicality going for it (closer to the real-world value of liquid hydrogen), but I generally go for the 13.5 due to the neatness of the four 1.5x1.5x1.5 meter cubes and its formal definition in Traveller 5.

Be as it may, I calculated Marchkeep's volume in Cubic Meters, so whatever definition of dTon one chooses to use should be easy to calculate.
Your sarcasm does you credit. :)

This isn't T5 or MegaTraveller - the only two iterations that use it. (CT, TNE, T4, MgT all use 14)

The rules for Mongoose Traveller as written say 14 - why introduce a needless contradiction?
 
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Is 13.5 a TNE convention? For some reason, that's the one that's stayed with me.
No, it was introduced in MegaTraveller and is used in T5. - and once again I am a bit disappointed that authors do not know these details about prior editions.
 
Your sarcasm does you credit. :)
Thank you! I find a little (friendly) jest often goes a long way, I'm glad you agree.

The rules for Mongoose Traveller as written say 14 - why introduce a needless contradiction?
One of the intentions with the SOM put forward by Adrian Tymes and backed by Matt was to try and get Mongoose 2nd and T5 on speaking terms in regards to how the two handled spacecraft – so I guess, in a way, the reason to introduce the 13.5 m³ is the same as that for introducing lifters and jump grids to Mongoose 2nd. And as the T5.10 Book 1 clearly distinguishes between the 'Legacy Ton' and the 'Ton' (Page 23), that's what we ended up going with.

And as for the 'contradiction' – teeeeeeeeeechnically speaking, the Ton in Mongoose products was always described as "(...) roughly 14 cubic meters (...)", which under a somewhat generous interpretation of "roughly", could be seen to still be compatible with the T5 ton. Let's call it (14.0±0.5) m³, if you will. :p
I do realise that the above is probably cold comfort, and that I almost certainly won't be able to change your mind, but I do feel it's only fair to explain why the 13.5 m³ ton was picked, so there's the why of it.
 
So the core rule book and High Guard will need errata. This is a needless contradiction.

Rather than fix one book every other book has to change or the contradiction remains.

By the way I can not explain why Marc went with 13.5 since T4 was 14, GT is 500 cubic feet ~ 14, and the folks at DGP really didn't know what they were doing with ships - notice how TNE reverted to 14.
 
If you have the budget to build such a huge civilian station (and probably several of them in a frontier sector), you should have the budget to build Navy fleets on the same scale.
A 10 miles long battleship would look good on any recruitment poster.
 
A fuel tender that carries, 18,000dtons, be like 25k, M1. Mora would have a mature outspace mining and refining industry. It wouldnt need to ferry fuel from Mora. Even if we up to 40k fuel a day. The ship be like 70k with an m1 drive. Give is a week worth of fuel that gets top up daily. So 280k fuel tank. Super tiny to the rest of the volume of the station. YOu can even supplement with solar panels or solar pannel arrays that beam power to the station. There no real upper range of scale for something like that.
 
A fuel tender that carries, 18,000dtons, be like 25k, M1. Mora would have a mature outspace mining and refining industry. It wouldnt need to ferry fuel from Mora. Even if we up to 40k fuel a day. The ship be like 70k with an m1 drive. Give is a week worth of fuel that gets top up daily. So 280k fuel tank. Super tiny to the rest of the volume of the station. YOu can even supplement with solar panels or solar pannel arrays that beam power to the station. There no real upper range of scale for something like that.
Except for in a time of war, you don't want to be cut off from your fuel supply, so having larger fuel tanks makes sense. This place would need to be able to hold out against a siege.
 
Thats acceptable. For Mora to be under seirge, requires the Spinward Marches to have been lost. As in, seige prep doesnt matte for MOra. For it to matter to MOra, the 3I lot the largest war with the most staggering of territory lost and incursion.
 
Thats acceptable. For Mora to be under seirge, requires the Spinward Marches to have been lost. As in, seige prep doesnt matte for MOra. For it to matter to MOra, the 3I lot the largest war with the most staggering of territory lost and incursion.
Siege could be a trade blockade also. It doesn't have to be a full-out war.
 
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