last night's USMC vs. PLA report

SnowDog said:
Where does it say that Landwarrior (or FIST) doesn't apply to SAW gunners or even M-203 grenadiers? At least it doesn't say so in the card...

Well my British card says specifically that it only applies to the L85A2
 
emperorpenguin said:
SnowDog said:
Where does it say that Landwarrior (or FIST) doesn't apply to SAW gunners or even M-203 grenadiers? At least it doesn't say so in the card...

Well my British card says specifically that it only applies to the L85A2

The USMC Infantry card I have says..

Any model in cover targeted with the M16A4 will only recieve a +1 bonus to its Target and Kill score

It says nothing about the M203 underslung greenade launcher, or the M249 SAW, so they don't get the bonus...
 
Bloody h*ll! You are right :oops: Only riflemen get that bonus, not MG or underslung GLs :( I suppose that my PLA opponent sighs with a relief now :)

Anyway, it's good to get that thing right before the next game...

Thanks for the correction!
 
No probs mate, I have had plenty pointed out to me, and its better that it happens here.... rather than in a middle of the game when he has picked up your card too read whilst he waits for you to move then suddenly accuses you of cheating....
 
But, wait Is that really true of the riflemen with the underslungs? What I mean is they wouldn't gain the bonus if they were using the underslungs, but they sure as hell would gain it if using the rifles those underslungs are attached to, since they are M16A4s.

Seem common sense to me. At least in my local games I would allow it.
 
The Old Soldier said:
But, wait Is that really true of the riflemen with the underslungs? What I mean is they wouldn't gain the bonus if they were using the underslungs, but they sure as hell would gain it if using the rifles those underslungs are attached to, since they are M16A4s.

Seem common sense to me. At least in my local games I would allow it.

Well my L85A2s with UGLS are still L85A2s according to my card, so by the letter of the law yes they do benefit when using the rifle part
 
its the confused marines losing their corporal i dont like the sound of. what effect does that have? i mean do people not manage to work on their own without a corporal? if they know the objectives they could still carry it out.
 
cordas said:
No probs mate, I have had plenty pointed out to me, and its better that it happens here.... rather than in a middle of the game when he has picked up your card too read whilst he waits for you to move then suddenly accuses you of cheating....

:lol: true! I just have to inform my mate about the change before the next game. It's a learning process after all...
 
The Old Soldier said:
But, wait Is that really true of the riflemen with the underslungs? What I mean is they wouldn't gain the bonus if they were using the underslungs, but they sure as hell would gain it if using the rifles those underslungs are attached to, since they are M16A4s.

Seem common sense to me. At least in my local games I would allow it.

That's how I see it, even now :) When you are using rifles, you get the benefit but not with MGs and GLs.
 
katadder said:
its the confused marines losing their corporal i dont like the sound of. what effect does that have? i mean do people not manage to work on their own without a corporal? if they know the objectives they could still carry it out.

If the squad is divided to two fireteams and the corporal acting as a teamleader buys the farm then the fireteam is suppressed while they decide who will be next in command. That's why you don't lead your troopers from front :wink:
 
hmm yeah everyone stop - the ncos got it, in the middle of a firefight yeah really.
even in 2 fire teams you would have a nominated deputy in each team.
 
Okay, here is one for you to wrap your head around. I'll use the USMC Infantry Squad as the example because I belimve they are very flexible and strong.

A Squad has two section each led by a Corporal. + the Sgt. who leads the squad. As stated the Sgt. must lead one of the Sections. While the unit is together they have effectively 3 leaders, but only one is presently called the leader.

While together enemy fire brings down the Sgt. Would the unit have to lose two action being out of command? No as long as each section leader was within command of his own section the unit would carry on as normal.

Or say the unit is already broke into to sections and the section with both the Sgt. and the Cpl have took fire and the Sgt. is killed. If the Cpl. has all the men within his command radius then the unit still is effective.

I believe that is one reason the USMC troops in this game are so costly. It is the command structure. Just in real life, if the Sgt is gone the Cpl. (who is a junior NCO take over). We alway knew who to look to next in the chain of command. Now once the section leaders were down, then thing might get hairy.
 
but both fire teams would have a 2ic - if you were in a fireteam led by a corporal then there was probably a lance corporal who would take charge if the corporal got it.
 
emperorpenguin said:
The Old Soldier said:
But, wait Is that really true of the riflemen with the underslungs? What I mean is they wouldn't gain the bonus if they were using the underslungs, but they sure as hell would gain it if using the rifles those underslungs are attached to, since they are M16A4s.

Seem common sense to me. At least in my local games I would allow it.

Well my L85A2s with UGLS are still L85A2s according to my card, so by the letter of the law yes they do benefit when using the rifle part

But the UGL has a different weapon stat and is thereofre a different weapon.

LBH
 
lastbesthope said:
emperorpenguin said:
The Old Soldier said:
But, wait Is that really true of the riflemen with the underslungs? What I mean is they wouldn't gain the bonus if they were using the underslungs, but they sure as hell would gain it if using the rifles those underslungs are attached to, since they are M16A4s.

Seem common sense to me. At least in my local games I would allow it.

Well my L85A2s with UGLS are still L85A2s according to my card, so by the letter of the law yes they do benefit when using the rifle part

But the UGL has a different weapon stat and is thereofre a different weapon.

LBH

re-read what i said LBH :wink: I was confirming that you still benefit from FIST when using the rifle part
 
lastbesthope said:
My bad, I'm a bit worked up at the moment due to some action on the BF:Evo tourney results thread.

Apologies.

LBH

No worries. congratulations LBH! btw you never did answer me what bone did you break?
 
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