Ironclads

[juggler69uk]

On the sample ship stats damage is shown as two numbers separated by a slash (/) I take it this is from VaS and the "crippled" figure ??and what happens when it is reached (Other than the Morale effect)?

If the idea is for readers to make up stats for ships:

How do you determine the crippled value ?

How do you determine target value ?

Speed, How do Knots equate to inches ? (ref +/- 5 knots and total speed)

Can you explain the 2W for wood armour ?

What determines W,VW,AP,SAP etc ?


Of course If you are going to supply all data for ships, then just use the crippled query at the top and the speed question.

Terry

 

[DM]

A new version has just been posted which answers many of the questions. It doesn't cover the way to determine SAP, AP etc. as thats on a file on my other PC which isn't working at the moment. However, the tables in the rules as they are now should cover all generic gun types. I ahve stats for about 50 vessels so far but agsin they are on the other PC

 

[Old Bear]

I am in the process of laying out an ACW variant of VaS which will likely be released as a PDF only set. Thought you guys might like to know that.

 

[DM]

lol, beat you to it

Will it cover European actions as well?

 

[Old Bear]

No, strictly ACW actions. I like the look of your napoelonic ideas, btw. I'm a big fan of Napoleonic naval and i've been nagging Matthew already about doing a full set of rules for Age of Sail actions.

 

[juggler69uk]

Also throws in a vote of confidence for both ACW and AoS as I like both :wink:

 

[DM]

No, strictly ACW actions.

The latest version of my variant has some stuff on rivers that I developed from I&F. I'll aim to post it soon. Might be some useful ideas in there.

 

[juggler69uk]

No, strictly ACW actions. I like the look of your napoelonic ideas, btw. I'm a big fan of Napoleonic naval and i've been nagging Matthew already about doing a full set of rules for Age of Sail actions.

Have you done a basic layout of an AoS set in preparation ??

 

[Old Bear]

Afraid not.

 

[DM]

Matt asked me to have a look at this. The result was I think was considrered a bit too complex. Still, it seemed a shame to waste it, hence its posted on my website.

 

[E Nicely]

Also throws in a vote of confidence for both ACW and AoS as I like both :wink:

But ancient galleys would be sooooo much better...

 

[DM]

The VAS model doesn't really work too well for ancient galleys. Besides, there are plenty of rules, both commercial and freebie, out there that cover the period.

 

[juggler69uk]

Also throws in a vote of confidence for both ACW and AoS as I like both :wink:

But ancient galleys would be sooooo much better...

DM did a set of ancient galley rules (Corvus Belli) published free in Wargames Illustrated (219 & 220)

Very nice they are too

 

[DM]

I have updated the file on the website. The ship data has been extended somewhat, so there are now over 160 ship types and a few variant armament fits to play with

 

[Captain_Nemo]

DM wrote:

I have updated the file on the website. The ship data has been extended somewhat, so there are now over 160 ship types and a few variant armament fits to play with

:shock: :shock: :shock:

 

[juggler69uk]

I have updated the file on the website. The ship data has been extended somewhat, so there are now over 160 ship types and a few variant armament fits to play with

A most venerable undertaking, many thanks. data is priceless

Quick queries
1, On the last page of the confederate vessels there are some with no armament listed, eg Hornet Sorpion Squib & wasp. A D Vance. Banshee. Lizzie. Hope. Is this because they were unarmed or information is not known
2, For a barge, what armament should/can be mounted

 

[DM]

The unarmed ones are blockade runners. I need to break the tables up a bit more to give some better differntiation between types. Some of my most entertaining games have been between US blockading squadrons and Confederate coastal ironclads attempting to allow a blockade runner to get home or escape from a Southern port.

 

[juggler69uk]

...............I need to break the tables up a bit more to give some better differntiation between types. Some of my most entertaining games have been between US blockading squadrons and Confederate coastal ironclads attempting to allow a blockade runner to get home or escape from a Southern port.

Ok Let us know when you redefine the tables. I fancy a blockade run try at some stage

Any ideas on the barges ?

 

[DM]

Barges tended to be unarmed. They are there to give you targets to shoot up (I'll be adding tugs sometime soon which can tow them about). They were widely used on the rivers in addition to normal riverboats.

 

[DM]

v0.4 posted just now. Rules for mortars and towing added.