Hunting Pack - revised wording

[Da Boss]

given the discussion on the other thread I thought I would post a version of how the Squadron seems to work- hopefully covering the gaps in the original wording?

A Hunting Pack is a special type of Centauri squadron that is used to inflict punishing damage on their enemies by combining targeting data throughout the squadron. It may contain up to six ships, of which none may be higher than Raid level. In all other respects other than those stated below it acts as a normal squadron.

Ships within a Hunting Pack must all attack the same designated target each turn (if possible) with at least 1 AD. The designated target will usually be a single enemy ship, but may be several ships within the same enemy squadron if preferred.

As long as the designated target remains within range of one ship within the Hunting Pack, every other ship in the pack may increase the Range of all their weapons that attack the designated target by half. Weapons that are fired at any other target do not gain the bonus to range.

 

[Burger]

Much better wording. Last sentence needs to cover splitting ADs too.

As long as the designated target remains within range of one ship within the Hunting Pack, every other ship in the pack may increase the Range of all their weapons that attack the designated target by half. Weapons that are fired at any other target do not gain the bonus to range. If a weapon's attack dice are split, only those dice fired at the designated target gain the bonus to range.

Of course this is assuming Matt's second response is the correct one. As Greg pointed out here, his first response contradicts this totally, and says you can only fire at the designated target. We really need to know which is correct, maybe I'll do a Rulesmasters post later if Matt doesn't answer in the Hunting Pack thread.

 

[MongooseMatt]

As long as the designated target remains within range of one ship within the Hunting Pack, every other ship in the pack may increase the Range of all their weapons that attack the designated target by half. Weapons that are fired at any other target do not gain the bonus to range. If a weapon's attack dice are split, only those dice fired at the designated target gain the bonus to range.

This all looks fair!

 

[Da Boss]

Jolly good - so final version is :

Centauri Hunting Packs

A Hunting Pack is a special type of Centauri squadron that is used to inflict punishing damage on their enemies by combining targeting data throughout the squadron. It may contain up to six ships, of which none may be higher than Raid level. In all other respects other than those stated below it acts as a normal squadron.

Ships within a Hunting Pack must all attack the same designated target each turn (if possible) with at least 1 AD. The designated target will usually be a single enemy ship, but may be several ships within the same enemy squadron if preferred.

As long as the designated target remains within range of one ship within the Hunting Pack, every other ship in the pack may increase the Range of all their weapons that attack the designated target by half. Weapons that are fired at any other target do not gain the bonus to range. If a weapon's attack dice are split, only those dice fired at the designated target gain the bonus to range.

 

[Davesaint]

I would also add that the extended range only applies to the target of the main attack by the hunting pack. Thus if you fire say at fighters in a side arc and a ship in your forward arc, you get the extended range against the ship in the front, but not against the fighters in the side.


Dave

 

[Burger]

I would also add that the extended range only applies to the target of the main attack by the hunting pack.

That's already in there...

As long as the designated target remains within range of one ship within the Hunting Pack, every other ship in the pack may increase the Range of all their weapons that attack the designated target by half.

 

[No. 1 Bear]

so will the books be changed or is this an errata for a book hardly out?

 

[Foxmeister]

Personally, I see this more of a clarification of the intent than a true "error" per se. I don't suppose that Matt will bother re-typesetting the book for something that is essentially a clarification.

As to the fact that the book is hardly out - well, that's immaterial isn't it? I mean if a book contains errors and needs an errata (which most gaming books do) it really doesn't matter whether it's on the day of release or 6 months down the line because the error will still have been there on day one.

Regards,

Dave

 

[MongooseMatt]

I mean if a book contains errors and needs an errata (which most gaming books do) it really doesn't matter whether it's on the day of release or 6 months down the line because the error will still have been there on day one.

Many people think this but it is, in fact, not true. The typo is a tricky beast, sometimes travelling alone, sometimes in flocks, waiting to descend upon a hapless book the moment the publisher turns his head!

 

[Burger]

Personally, I see this more of a clarification of the intent than a true "error" per se.

No, it's definitely an error. What is written about hunting packs is different from how the rule is intended to work. That is what defines an error. But, its kind of irrelevant what we call it; it has now been explained how it is intended to work and that is how we'll apply it to our games.

I don't suppose that Matt will bother re-typesetting the book for something that is essentially a clarification.

No, I'd guess not too. But it might be updated in the PDF version when that is released (like the 2nd edition typos/errors/clarifications were)?

 

[Da Boss]

I mean if a book contains errors and needs an errata (which most gaming books do) it really doesn't matter whether it's on the day of release or 6 months down the line because the error will still have been there on day one.

Many people think this but it is, in fact, not true. The typo is a tricky beast, sometimes travelling alone, sometimes in flocks, waiting to descend upon a hapless book the moment the publisher turns his head!

especially annoying when you have poured over texts on many occasions and someone glances at after its printed and say "you do know you have spelt this wrong ............."

 

[lastbesthope]

So is there going to be an erratta for application to the tournament or what? I'm confused

LBH

 

[Da Boss]

I think the idea is that the wording above clarifies the intent of the squadron rules..............

 

[MongooseMatt]

I think the idea is that the wording above clarifies the intent of the squadron rules..............

Indeed.

 

[MongooseMatt]

especially annoying when you have poured over texts on many occasions and someone glances at after its printed and say "you do know you have spelt this wrong ............."

That normally happens within 2 minutes of the first person outside the company flicking through the book. . .

 

[AdrianH]

I think the idea is that the wording above clarifies the intent of the squadron rules..............

Indeed.

Will this revised wording be published anywhere other than this forum? I know from the B5 Open Day last year that some players don't read this forum; when I asked my opponents if they wanted to use the playtest P&P rules, the usual answer was "What's P&P?".

 

[lastbesthope]

I think the idea is that the wording above clarifies the intent of the squadron rules..............

Indeed.

Fair enough, makes sense with how I'd interpret it anyway.

LBH