Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Possibly no one wants to manufacture odd shaped machinery; fuel is more fluid.
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alex_greene
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Who designed the Donosev?Condottiere said:
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Someone's nephew.
snrdg121408
Mongoose
Hello all,
To, in theory, make the components easier to insert in deck plans.
AnotherDilbert said:
To, in theory, make the components easier to insert in deck plans.
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
The only component we do round up is fuel, drives and other machinery can be made in any size including very small.Condottiere said:
I generally do not include PP fuel on small craft deck plans, but assume it is stored in nooks & crannies.snrdg121408 said:
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Fuel bunkerage should be flexible, since there's no reason for capacity to be rounded up, except to simplify accounting.
-Daniel-
Emperor Mongoose
For me, simplifying the accounting is the only reason I could think of. It does not bother me at all, but I can see how it might bug others. I so seldom feel the need to create a ship from scratch that it is not a big deal for me. I end up using ships from both Mongoose and other 3rd party publishers more often than not. I do like playing with the layouts though, that can be fun. :mrgreen:Condottiere said:
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
Some ship errata:
CA Ghalalk:
Cost of armour and rad shielding switched.
Vastly overpowered, can power all systems and still have 14425 power in reserve, 34425 if we do not run M-drive and J-Drive at the same time.
Fuel Processor takes a week to refine fuel, too slow? Would slow down a fleet's strategic speed considerably.
Distributed Array too massive, should be 2 × 5 × 3 = 30 dT for two sensor arrays?
ECM & ESP are double systems, not noted.
A TL15 1DD particle spinal is 2800 dT. It could be a lower tech item,but should be noted.
A small missile bay costs MCr 12, 40 bays cost MCr 480.
Point Defence Batteries, Type III cost MCr 20, so 2 PDs cost MCr 40.
Armoured Bulkheads, Sensors are wrong? Or is only one sensor system armoured, should be noted?
Cost of shuttles not included.
Briefing Rooms cost MCr 0,5 each, so total cost MCr 4.
11 Med bays of 5 patients each used, not 2. Med Bay uses power, not noted.
Armoury cost MCr 0,25 / dT, so total MCr 3,75. Not enough armoury for either crew or troops.
Too few gunners, should be 183?
No Sensor Operators would cripple ship in combat.
389 hardpoints left empty.
Sensors use 12 power, or 24 if we use the backup concurrently.
Fuel Processor use 150 Power.
CA Ghalalk:
Cost of armour and rad shielding switched.
Vastly overpowered, can power all systems and still have 14425 power in reserve, 34425 if we do not run M-drive and J-Drive at the same time.
Fuel Processor takes a week to refine fuel, too slow? Would slow down a fleet's strategic speed considerably.
Distributed Array too massive, should be 2 × 5 × 3 = 30 dT for two sensor arrays?
ECM & ESP are double systems, not noted.
A TL15 1DD particle spinal is 2800 dT. It could be a lower tech item,but should be noted.
A small missile bay costs MCr 12, 40 bays cost MCr 480.
Point Defence Batteries, Type III cost MCr 20, so 2 PDs cost MCr 40.
Armoured Bulkheads, Sensors are wrong? Or is only one sensor system armoured, should be noted?
Cost of shuttles not included.
Briefing Rooms cost MCr 0,5 each, so total cost MCr 4.
11 Med bays of 5 patients each used, not 2. Med Bay uses power, not noted.
Armoury cost MCr 0,25 / dT, so total MCr 3,75. Not enough armoury for either crew or troops.
Too few gunners, should be 183?
No Sensor Operators would cripple ship in combat.
389 hardpoints left empty.
Sensors use 12 power, or 24 if we use the backup concurrently.
Fuel Processor use 150 Power.
snrdg121408
Mongoose
Morning PDT allanimal,
Technically speaking any component that does not
In general the fuel load requirement of one d-ton or two weeks or four weeks depending on the power plant used does not make sense in some applications.
Per the design rules a craft with a cockpit or dual cockpit has life support for 24 hours and still requires you to calculate a power plant's fuel usage for four weeks or two weeks for a chemical power plant. Even one week is overkill in my opinion.
Please note that I used "components" which includes but is not exclusive to fuel rounding.
allanimal said:
Technically speaking any component that does not
In general the fuel load requirement of one d-ton or two weeks or four weeks depending on the power plant used does not make sense in some applications.
Per the design rules a craft with a cockpit or dual cockpit has life support for 24 hours and still requires you to calculate a power plant's fuel usage for four weeks or two weeks for a chemical power plant. Even one week is overkill in my opinion.
Please note that I used "components" which includes but is not exclusive to fuel rounding.
snrdg121408
Mongoose
Hello all,
Per HG 2e Step 6. Install Computer p. 18 right column "A ship may have a maximum of two computers (a primary and a backup), but the second must have a lower Processing score than the primary."
The back-up system being less capable than the primary does not make sense to me nor does limiting the number of computers to two.
IIRC the space shuttle had a number of computers, the exact number I can't recall, that were, in theory, identical. The main reason was for back-up. Another function was that the computers cross checked each other and when a certain number agreed things were okay. If the number failed a warning was sent to the crew.
Per HG 2e Step 6. Install Computer p. 18 right column "A ship may have a maximum of two computers (a primary and a backup), but the second must have a lower Processing score than the primary."
The back-up system being less capable than the primary does not make sense to me nor does limiting the number of computers to two.
IIRC the space shuttle had a number of computers, the exact number I can't recall, that were, in theory, identical. The main reason was for back-up. Another function was that the computers cross checked each other and when a certain number agreed things were okay. If the number failed a warning was sent to the crew.
snrdg121408 said:
Remember that, in Traveller, the Ship's Computer is not a single system - it is going to have redundant systems. Put another way, in Traveller terms, the Space Shuttle had a single computer.
dmccoy1693
Cosmic Mongoose
5. They're the top of 1975 technology. And they'd all be considered 1 computer today.snrdg121408 said:
I may be misunderstanding something pretty basic, but several of the ships seem to have the wrong tonnage for their jump drives. Apologies if this has been picked up already or if I am missing something basic.
Scout/Seeker/Serpent J2 in a 100dT hull should be (5% x 100) 5dt, yet they have 10dt listed.
Express boat J4 in a 100dt hull should be (10% x 100) 10dT but has 15dT
Far Trader J2 in a 200 Ton hull should be (5% x 200) 10 dT yet it has 15dT
Free trader J1 in 100 ton hull should be (2.5% x 200Dt) 5dT yet it has 10dT.
And so on and so on....
G.
Scout/Seeker/Serpent J2 in a 100dT hull should be (5% x 100) 5dt, yet they have 10dt listed.
Express boat J4 in a 100dt hull should be (10% x 100) 10dT but has 15dT
Far Trader J2 in a 200 Ton hull should be (5% x 200) 10 dT yet it has 15dT
Free trader J1 in 100 ton hull should be (2.5% x 200Dt) 5dT yet it has 10dT.
And so on and so on....
G.
EldritchFire
Mongoose
GJD said:
Page 15:
"Select the jump score you wish your ship to have and use the figure below as the percentage of the ship’s hull that the jump
drive will consume, then add 5 tons."
So those numbers are accurate.
snrdg121408
Mongoose
Howdy GJD,
Per HG 2e p. 15 "A jump drive must be a minimum of 10 tons."
Darn it, I hit the wrong key before including the +5 d-tons. Good thing EldritchFire posted before I did.
GJD said:
Per HG 2e p. 15 "A jump drive must be a minimum of 10 tons."
Darn it, I hit the wrong key before including the +5 d-tons. Good thing EldritchFire posted before I did.
Missed the +5dT line.snrdg121408
Mongoose
Howdy Matthew Sprange,
Thank-you for the clarification, I am unfortunately thinking in terms of CT/MT/TNE/T4 in some cases.
However, in my opinion a back-up should have the same capabilities as the primary system. An auxiliary or emergency system on the other hand I would agree would be set-up to handle the key capabilities of the primary system.
msprange said:
Thank-you for the clarification, I am unfortunately thinking in terms of CT/MT/TNE/T4 in some cases.
However, in my opinion a back-up should have the same capabilities as the primary system. An auxiliary or emergency system on the other hand I would agree would be set-up to handle the key capabilities of the primary system.
snrdg121408
Mongoose
Howdy dmccoy,
Thank you for supplying the number of computers was five, my memory was saying six and I have no idea where my copy of the book I have on the space shuttle went to.
dmccoy1693 said:
Thank you for supplying the number of computers was five, my memory was saying six and I have no idea where my copy of the book I have on the space shuttle went to.
