G'Koth Trasnport Cruiser

[Burger]

Drop it dude. I'm not biting, your bait is old.

 

[Tank]

@Leonpaul

Why would you want to have vast numbers of single purpose ships? Logically most Fleets would want a high degree of multirole vessels and certainly hulls that can be adapted and changed to mission specific or fleet specific roles? This makes financial sense, design sense and capability sense

The Narn of all races utilise what they have to best degree. The G'Koth as an early G'Quan has already been introduced and is a viable variant.

 

[leonpaul]

you guys are so great you will not reply to a serious point raised. Because its not what you want to hear ,i am asking why you want one at raid when you have ships at that level already and also i am giving examples of modern day ships

 

[Locutus9956]

Leave it Leon. PLEASE. Were trying to calm things down and let this argument go. If you want to talk about it in a reasonable polite way without pointing fingers at people then by all means come on over to the 'civilised G'Koth thread' but otherwise, knock yourself out on this thread! Flame on!

 

[H]

if you take the time to look back, we have said why we want one.
their is justification for and against. You are seriously coming across as looking for an argument now.

 

[Locutus9956]

you guys are so great you will not reply to a serious point raised. Because its not what you want to hear ,i am asking why you want one at raid when you have ships at that level already and also i am giving examples of modern day ships

And that's when I shot him you honour!

 

[H]

you know, just thinking, i am trying very hard to be reasonable, and I could end up being banned for it, damn you all! ggrrrrrr
MODS please lock this thread PLEASE!

 

[Burger]

Also Leon, please try to use more punctuation in your posts... I'm not saying this to have a go, or to be nasty, or insult you. I am saying it as advice, because it is hard to understand what you write and it is easy to get the wrong idea, when we don't know where one sentence ends and another begins. No offence intended, please don't take any. I don't claim to have perfect grammar myself and I don't expect perfect grammar on web forums, its just that a certain level of legibility is useful particularly when the debate gets heated.

 

[Locutus9956]

Seriously though I agree completely. Lock this thread. Hell DELETION wouldnt be unwarrented at this point. Ive started another thread where we can carry on the actual topic reasonably. This is just argument for aguments sake now.

 

[Hash]

Leonpaul - good point, just leave the personal attack aside ok dude

I'm compiling a list of reasons against the G'Koth on the "friendly" thread that Locutus started and would welcome support!

 

[Da Boss]

Firstly - I Play Centauri.

Now comparing 21st century human ships to fictional alien starships is problematic. Even if this was the case - there are multi-role ships now, past and probably future.

The ship in question - it is already partially ACTA cannon, if balanced by the varied experts here should not be unbalencing ( :?: :shock: ) and a large number of interested people want one.

without crossing into 2nd Ed too much - even if as you describe it goes - well then people enjoy for 6-12 months and i think (hope :? ) that is why we play the game.?

The more ships that are produced and are balanced - the more the game becomes interesting.........

now about Shadow varients............... :wink:

 

[leonpaul]

i am not looking for an argument ,just for people who post to actually respond instead of claiming that you are looking for a fight. just answer the post and all will be good

 

[H]

your post has been answered, read back through the thread, it was answered before you asked it, we are not looking for one hull across all levels, and i very much doubt doubt burger and reaverman are, they don't even play narn. They have and I have given reasons for inclusin, Hash is giving reasons against now, give him somethign constructive to work with.

damn my spelling is going to pot, must be time to go home!

 

[Burger]

Its already answered multiple times.

 

[leonpaul]

but its gets varient overkill then, at the moment their is too many and you just want to keep adding.So people can use their favourite ship by the way the G'Quan is mine as well

 

[Reaverman]

Hi back again, so basically burger and reaverman want the narn to field nothing but g'quans at all levels that is what i am getting,ships are normally designed for a specific role ie carriers,destroyers and subs

You've seen post-flame comments, you know what we have stated. Also, try and explain how both Burger and I, managed to vote an extra 15 times each. Stop trolling for a fight, no one is interested. Now leave it alone. and move on.

 

[Burger]

but its gets varient overkill then, at the moment their is too many and you just want to keep adding.So people can use their favourite ship by the way the G'Quan is mine as well

So delete some of the useless War variants that no-one ever uses.

 

[Da Boss]

I think it is fair that each ship is judged by itself this post was "should this ship be added" not should there be lots of varients.

Whilst it may open a door to that - no-one asked for others before - did they? The Primus already has two varients - not that I use but hey....

Its a standard TTG - look at Battletech, BFG, etc etc

 

[H]

actually, I just deleted my entire coment, as i think I am wasting my breath

 

[Reaverman]

ok, just think about it, in a raid tournament or a 5 point raid demo, No-one will take this truly iconic ship, as quite frankly, the G'Quan is not a great battleship. No-one ever takes the war level varients, and indeed in campaign play, I am probably one of the few people to take them, and I use the G'Lan varient.
if you want to get people playing a game, you need something iconic, the Vorchan (and varients), the Hyperion, The Omega, the Avioki(Kaliva) vorlons can all appear at raid level looking good and shiny,. A g'quan is a mere damage sponge and doesn't do itself any justice. Now, if you had a decent raid version it would A, get used, so people see another iconic chip, B break up the narn bat squad people use so often.

Agreed, the G'quan just tend to get some more crits, out flanked and goosed. So most people pick the Bat Squad, and avoid the issue. Also, you have a least 3 times as many beam weapons