Gap in the market

[apoc527]

FWIW, my "ACP" does 3d6-1. I also have an 11mm version. I am modeling them off electrothermal propellants as described in GURPS Ultra-Tech 2, Alternity, and Cyberpunk 2020. You can also google that phrase.

 

[far-trader]

...I am suggesting a round for the"advanced combat pistol" that is smaller than current 9mm, but more powerful, so the two factors cancel out, and we are left with similar performance (note the damage is the same as a TL6 autopistol), but lighter rounds allow more in each magazine.

Egil

Sounds reasonable enough then, I didn't have the book handy to compare specifics. As long as the recoil factor is also the same I see no issues then.

As for recoil impacts, yeah it's not a simple problem. Many factors contribute to or offset it. Even something as basic as bracing, stance and grip, or as simple as a suppressor (for CPR guns). None of that is mentioned in the rules is it? The rules are a simplified (overly so in some opinions) treatment so messing too far with them can easily lead to going too far, especially in a 2D6 system where every +/- 1 is a significant factor.

 

[locarno24]

Even something as basic as bracing, stance and grip, or as simple as a suppressor (for CPR guns). None of that is mentioned in the rules is it?

No. It can be assumed to be part of the 'to-hit' bonus, I guess.

 

[DFW]

(1) 7.92x57, 30-06, 7.62N. The 30-06 is an (illegal) copy of the 7.92JS and Springfield Arsenal has been sentenced to pay royalities for bullet and the (equally copied) rifle. And the 7.62N (T65) is a derivate of the 30-06

Yep, the US captured Spanish versions during the war against Spain and copied them. They were paying up until WWI... But, currently, there is nothing "illegal" about the weapon in question.

 

[DFW]

But that's relatively pointless. A .22 has poor KE but it is the most common killing round in many gang fights. A .25 "sucks" but has killed many people.

And of course, why the military arms troops with .22 & .25 handguns...

A little quiz for you apoc. If you had the choice of some punk pumping a round into you from a .25 or a 10mm, which would you choose?

 

[apoc527]

That depends entirely on where they are going to shoot me. If said punk is willing to shoot me in the leg with a 10mm vs in the forehead with a .22, I'll take the 10mm. I think this only serves to prove my point...

 

[DFW]

That depends entirely on where they are going to shoot me. If said punk is willing to shoot me in the leg with a 10mm vs in the forehead with a .22, I'll take the 10mm. I think this only serves to prove my point...

Same place for both...