Freespace Conversion??

[Tolwyn]

Hello,

I found Freespace 2 last night and installed it on my PC. The space battles wre excellent, much B5 like.

My questions is if someone has already done a conversion for the ships and where I could get thme.

Thank you in advance

 

[darknight]

a good one is http://babylon.hard-light.net

 

[Triggy]

Although, the Babylon Project is actually based on the released Freespace 2 sourcecode so doesn't require you to actually own Freespace 2. However, it is very similar in play style so if you like one and like B5 as well, then you'll love the total conversion.

 

[Tolwyn]

Thank you.

How I get it nobody tried to converde Freespace ships to ACTA?

If someone could tell me where I could tech-specs I'd like to try

 

[[Omicron]Urobach]

Thank you.

How I get it nobody tried to converde Freespace ships to ACTA?

If someone could tell me where I could tech-specs I'd like to try

hey..you have the same ideas like me....NICE.
i find ACTA is an excellent base for some Freespace Game Rules. Beams,Fighters,Interceptors,Shields,Carriers...all what you need.
only models left... but you can use counters for the start.
i had made some counters for the Shivans (Sathanas,Lucifer,Ravana Moloch,Cain etc.) in the past but deleted them....worry. :roll:

 

[Phil Walling]

hmmm... odd.. i can't seem to download any of the missions or campaigns... is it just me?

 

[crucible_orc]

I have often thought about scratch building the Freespace 2 ships. i just never get around to it.

 

[darknight]

na sometimes they dont download cause of the server, ill see if i still have em on disc for ya. if not keep trying they work in the end, just make sure you change the path to the exe file once you upgrade to 3a

 

[[Omicron]Urobach]

I have often thought about scratch building the Freespace 2 ships. i just never get around to it.

i have try this, too :lol: :lol: :lol:

i have tried to scratchbuild the Sathanas Juggernaught and the Moloch Corvette. but with lesser success :?
i like especially the shivan warships....

 

[Tolwyn]

Here is my first try on terran and vasudan ships from Freespace 1. The Shivans are still in the works as they are a bit more difficult to balance. By know I haven't got any reliable tech data for FS 2 ships, especially shields and weapons.

Galactic Terran Alliance Fleet List

Patrol
Apollo Space Superiority Fighter
Apollo Space Superiority Fighter Refit
Athena Light Bomber
Valkyrie Interceptor
Loki Reconnaissance Fighter
Medusa Heavy Bomber
Zeus Medium Bomber

Skirmish
Fenris Cruiser
Leviathan Heavy Cruiser
Ursa Assault Bomber

War
Orion Destroyer



Fenris Cruiser
Hull 5 PL Skirmish
Speed 10 Troops 3
Turns 2/45° Special Jumpdrive A-F 4
Damage 18/5 Crew 22/6

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Particle Turret F 8 8 T-L
Particle Turret P 8 8 T-L
Particle Turret S 8 8 T-L
Particle Turret A 8 8 T-L
Fusion Mortar T 16 4 Energie Mine


Leviathan Cruiser
Hull 6 PL Skirmish
Speed 8 Troops 3
Turns 1/45° Special Jumpdrive A-F 6 Escort
Damage 18/5 Crew 22/6

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Fighter Killer Bank T 14 2 Accurate AP
Particle Turret F 8 8 T-L
Particle Turret P 8 8 T-L
Particle Turret S 8 8 T-L
Particle Turret A 8 8 T-L


Orion Destroyer
Hull 6 PL War
Speed 6 Troops 5
Turns 1/45° Special Jumpdrive A-F 9 Carrier 6 Fleet Carrier Lumbering
Damage 58/14 Crew 68/16
Craft 16 Flights

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Particle Turret F 8 12 T-L
Particle Turret P 8 12 T-L
Particle Turret S 8 12 T-L
Particle Turret A 8 12 T-L
Heavy Particle Turret F 12 8 T-L DD
Heavy Particle Turret P 12 8 T-L DD
Heavy Particle Turret S 12 8 T-L DD
Heavy Particle Turret A 12 8 T-L DD


Apollo Space Superiority Fighter
Hull 4 PL Patrol 6 Flights
Turns SM Special Fighter, Dodge 3+
Speed 10 Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
ML-16 Laser T 1 1 Weak T-L
MX 15 Missile F 2 2


Apollo Space Superiority Fighter Refit
Hull 4 PL Patrol 5 Flights per Wing
Turns SM Special Fighter, Dodge 3+, Shields 2/1
Speed 10 Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger T 1 1 T-L
MX 15 Missile F 2 2


Valkyrie Interceptor
Hull 3 PL Patrol 4 Flights per Wing
Turns SM Special Fighter, Dodge 2+, Shields 1/1
Speed 14 Dogfight +2

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger T 1 1 T-L
MX 15 Missile F 2 2


Athena Light Bomber
Hull 4 PL Patrol 3 per Wing
Speed 12 Special Fighter Dodge 3+ Shields 2/1
Turns SM Doghfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger T 1 2 T-L
Synaptic Bomb F 4 4 SAP Accurate SL
Fury Missile F 2 2 Accurate AP


Loki Reconnaissance Fighter
Hull 3 PL Patrol 6 per Wing
Speed 16 Special Fighter, Dodge 2+, Shields 1/1
Turns SM Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger T 1 1
Interceptor Missile F 2 1 Weak


Medusa Heavy Bomber
Hull 5 Pl Patrol 1 per Wing
Speed 8 Special Fighter Dodge 4+ Shields 3/2 A-F 1 Agile
Turns 2/90° Dogfight +0

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Prometheus T 2 1 T-L DD
Hornet Swarm Missile T 4 2 AP Accurate
Tsunami Bomb F 1 4 SAP DD SL
or
Cluster Bomb F 2 4 AP Energiemine SL


Zeus Medium Bomber
Hull 4 PL Patrol 2 per Wing
Speed 9 Special Fighter Dodge 3+ Shields 2/2
Turns SM Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Prometheus T 2 1 DD T-L
Tsunami Bomb F 1 2 SAP DD SL
or
Cluster Bomb F 2 2 AP Energiemine SL


Ursa Assault Bomber
Hull 6 PL Skirmsh 2 per Wing
Speed 8 Special Anti-Fighter 2 Interceptor 1 Shields 6/2 Dodge 6+ Agile
Turns 2/90° Dogfight -1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger T 1 3 T-L
Harbinger Bomb F 4 4 SAP QD Precise SL
MX-50 F 2 4
Synaptic Bomb F 4 8 SAP Energie Mine SL



Herkules Heavy Assault Fighter
Hull 5 Pl Patrol 2 per Wing
Speed 8 Special Fighter Dodge 3+ Shields 2/2
Turns SM Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger F 1 2 T-L
Prometheus T 2 1 DD T-L
Phoenix V Missile T 2 2 AP Accurate


Ulysses Advanced Space Superiority Fighter
Hull 4 PL Patrol 3 per Wing
Speed 12 Special Fighter Shields 2/1 Dodge 2+
Turns SM Dogfight +3

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Prometheus T 2 1 DD T-L
Hornet Swarm Missile T 4 2 AP Accurate



Vasudan Empire Fleet List
Patrol
Aten Cruiser
Amun Heavy Bomber
Anubis Light Fighter
Anubis Light Fighter Refit
Horus Interceptor
Seth Heavy Fighter
Toth Advanced Superiority Fighter
Amun Heavy Bomber

Skirmish
Osiris Advanced Bomber


Battle
Typhoon Destroyer


Amun Heavy Bomber
Hull 5 PL Patrol 1 per Wing
Speed 8 Special Fighter Dodge 5+ Shields 4/2 Anti Fighter 2 Dodge 5+
Turns SM Dogfight 0

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger T 2 4 T-L
Harbinger Bomb F 4 4 SAP QD Precise SL
Synaptic Bomb F 4 2 SAP Energie Mine SL


Osiris Advanced Bomber
Hull 6 PL Skirmish 2 per Wing
Speed 9 Special Fighter Dodge 5+ Shields 6/2 Anti Fighter 2 Dodge 5+ Agile
Turns 2/90° Dogfight 0

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger T 2 4 T-L
Tsunami Bomb F 1 6 SAP DD SL
Phoenix V Missile T 3 2 Accurate


Aten Cruiser
Hull 4 PL Patrol
Speed 12 Troops 1
Turns 2/45° Special Jumpdrive A-F 2
Damage 18/5 Crew 22/6

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Particle Turret F 8 4 T-L
Particle Turret P 8 4 T-L
Particle Turret S 8 4 T-L
Particle Turret A 8 4 T-L
Avenger Turret T 16 4 AP

Typhoon Destroyer
Hull 5 PL War
Speed 6 Troops 7
Turns 1/45° Special Jumpdrive A-F 6 Carrier 6 Fleet Carrier Lumbering
Damage 58/14 Crew 68/16
Craft 20 Flights

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Heavy Particle Turret F 12 12 T-L DD
Heavy Particle Turret P 12 8 T-L DD
Heavy Particle Turret S 12 8 T-L DD
Heavy Particle Turret A 12 8 T-L DD
Fighter Killer Bank F 14 2 Accurate AP
Fighter Killer Bank T 14 2 Accurate AP
Flux Mortar P 16 4 Energie Mine
Flux Mortar S 16 4 Energie Mine
Particle Turret P 8 4 T-L
Particle Turret S 8 4 T-L
Particle Turret A 8 6 T-L


Anubis Light Fighter
Hull 4 PL Patrol 6 Flights
Turns SM Special Fighter, Dodge 3+
Speed 10 Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Light Laser T 1 2 Weak T-L
MX 15 Missile F 2 2


Anubis Light Fighter Refit
Hull 4 PL Patrol 5 Flights per Wing
Turns SM Special Fighter, Dodge 3+, Shields 1/1
Speed 10 Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Light Laser T 1 2 T-L Weak
MX 15 Missile F 2 2


Horus Interceptor
Hull 3 PL Patrol 5 Flights per Wing
Turns SM Special Fighter, Dodge 2+, Shields 1/1
Speed 14 Dogfight +2

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Light Laser T 1 2 T-L Weak
Phoenix V F 2 1 AP Accurate


Seth Heavy Fighter
Hull 5 PL Patrol 3 per Wing
Speed 12 Special Fighter Shields 2/2 Dodge 3+
Turns SM Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Light Laser T 1 1 T-L Weak
Prometheus T 2 1 T-L DD
Interceptor F 2 2 Weak


Toth Advanced Superiority Fighter
Hull 5 Pl Patrol 2 per Wing
Speed 8 Special Fighter Dodge 3+ Shields 2/2
Turns SM Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Avenger F 2 2 T-L
Prometheus T 2 1 DD T-L
Phoenix V Missile T 2 2 AP Accurate

Just tell me what you think of it or what should be changed 8)

 

[Akalabeth]

Here is my first try on terran and vasudan ships from Freespace 1. The Shivans are still in the works as they are a bit more difficult to balance. By know I haven't got any reliable tech data for FS 2 ships, especially shields and weapons.

Dude, just get VPView and extract the ships.tbl and weapons.tbl, that'll give you hard numbers on all the hull strengths and everything of that nature that you'll need to do some conversions. I did some conversions for Babylon 5 Wars which you can find here: http://knossos.firenebula.com . Not sure if they'd help you convert over or not, probably not I imagine. I did up basically all the SCSes but I've only played them once or twice so not sure how fun they are. Not trying to pimp B5Wars or anything like that, just thought it might help you a bit. Hardest part would be representing the fighters i think since FS2 is a dogfight game, not a fleet combat game.

But yeah, grab the Ships.tbl and it'll tell you everything. Like Fenris hull strength in FS2 is 10,000. Leviathan is like 25,000 or somesuch. And damn, I wish someone would scratch build the FS2 ships, that'd be so awesome.[/url]

 

[Tolwyn]

Thank you

 

[Tolwyn]

Thank you
The B5 Wars SCS are amazing

 

[Tolwyn]

Thank you
The B5 Wars SCS are amazing

 

[Akalabeth]

No worries man, looks like this board is prone to the multiple post bug as well. I'm surprised that ACTA's doesnt have more sub boards on these forums. Seems to be enough traffic judging by the number of posts on this day.

 

[[Omicron]Urobach]

Nice job...but all this ships are from Freespace 1 ?!?!?
all in all..keep on this good work.

ok. for the start it is very usefull to use the original Freespace.
not so a lot of ships like FS2.
i understand this.
to the scratchbuild theme....it is really difficult to build this ships...the terran ships are not so...but the shivans and vasudans...a hell of work. i know it. i have tried it. :roll:

 

[Tolwyn]

Here come the Shivans:

Shivan Fleet List

Patrol
Shaitan Bomber
Basilisk Fighter
Dragon Fighter
Mantikor Fighter
Scorpion Fighter

Skrimish
Nephilim Bomber
Seraphim Bomber
Cain Cruiser

Raid
Lilith Cruiser

War
Demon Destroyer

Armageddon
Lucifer Super Destroyer

Nephilim Bomber
Hull 6 PL Skirmish 1 per Wing
Speed 8 Special Fighter Shields 7/3 Dodge 6+ Agile
Turns 2/90° Dogfight -1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Light Laser T 1 5 T-L
Harbinger Bomb F 4 8 SAP QD Precise SL
Synaptic Bomb F 4 2 SAP Energie Mine SL
Fury Missile F 2 2 Accurate AP


Seraphim Bomber
Hull 6 PL Skirmish 1 per Wing
Speed 8 Special Fighter Shields 7/3 Dodge 6+ Agile
Turns 2/90° Dogfight -1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Light Laser T 1 4 T-L
Cluster Bomb F 2 4 AP Energiemine SL
Fury Missile F 2 2 Accurate AP
Phoenix V Missile T 3 4 Accurate


Shaitan Bomber
Hull 5 Pl Patrol 2 per Wing
Speed 10 Special Fighter Shields 4/2 Dodge 5+
Turns 2/90° Dogfight +0

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Heavy Laser T 1 1 DD T-L
Shivan Laser T 2 1 AP T-L
Tsunami Bomb F 1 4 SAP DD SL



Cain Cruiser
Hull 4 PL Skirmish
Speed 12 Special Advanced Jumppoint
Turns 2/45° Troops 2
Damage 28/6 Crew 34/6

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Heavy Laser Turret F 12 6 Accurate AP
Light Laser Turret P 6 4 Accurate
Light Laser Turret S 6 4 Accurate
Light Laser Turret F 6 4 Accurate
Fighter Killer Bank T 14 2 Accurate AP


Lilith Cruiser
Hull 5 PL Raid
Speed 10 Special Advanced Jumppoint AF 6 Escort
Turns 2/45° Troops 3
Damage 28/6 Crew 34/6

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Laser Defense Turret F 8 6 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret P 8 4 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret S 8 4 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret A 8 4 AP DD
Shivan Cluster Bomb P 12 4 Energie Mine
Shivan Cluster Bomb S 12 4 Energie Mine


Demon Destroyer
Hull 5 PL War
Speed 6 Special Advanced Jumppoint AF 2 Carrier 6 Fleet Carrier
Turns 1/45° Troops 9
Damage 70/10 Crew 78/12
Craft 20 Flights

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Assault Laser Turret T 10 6 SAP DD
Laser Defense Turret F 8 12 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret P 8 6 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret S 8 6 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret A 8 10 AP DD
Fighter Killer Bank F 14 5 Accurate AP
Fighter Killer Bank P 14 2 Accurate AP
Fighter Killer Bank S 14 2 Accurate AP
Fighter Killer Bank A 14 2 Accurate AP


Lucifer Super Destroyer
Hull 6 PL Armageddon
Speed 6 Special Advanced Jumppoint AF 2 Carrier 6 Fleet Carrier Shields 20/20
Turns 1/45° Troops 9
Damage 100/15 Crew 120/25
Craft 20 Flights

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Flux Cannon F 20 8 Beam QD Precise
Laser Defense Turret F 8 18 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret P 8 10 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret S 8 10 AP DD
Laser Defense Turret A 8 12 AP DD
Fighter Killer Bank T 14 4 Accurate AP
Cluster Bomb F 20 8 AP Energie Mine



Basilisk Fighter
Hull 4 PL Patrol 2 per Wing
Speed 12 Special Fighter Dodge 3+ Shields 4/2
Turns SM Dogfight +3

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Heavy Laser T 1 2 T-L
Mega Laser T 2 2 T-L DD
Hornet Swarm Missile F 4 2 AP Accurate


Dragon Fighter
Hull 4 PL Patrol 1 per Wing
Speed 14 Special Fighter Shields 3/1 Dodge 2+
Turns SM Dogfight +3

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Heavy Laser T 1 6 AP
Interceptor Missile F 2 2 Weak
Fury Missile F 2 2 Accurate AP

Manticore Fighter
Hull 5 PL Patrol 3 per Wing
Speed 10 Special Fighter Shields 2/1 Dodge +3
Turns SM Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Mega Laser T 2 2 DD
Interceptor Missile F 2 2 Weak


Scorpion Fighter
Hull 3 PL Patrol 4 Flights per Wing
Turns SM Special Fighter, Dodge 2+, Shields 2/1
Speed 10 Dogfight +1

Weapons Arc Range AD Special
Heavy Laser T 1 1 T-L
Light Laser T 2 2
MX 15 Missile F 2 2

The FS2 ships are a bit difficult because of their greatly improved weapons suite.

I would definitly buy FS Ship models

 

[katadder]

has anyone played the babylon project? its quite hard to even shoot down starfuries, but when i played the EM war demo i died about 10 seconds after the nials and sharlins turned up

 

[Locutus9956]

The Babylon Project is tricky as the fighters are actually somewhat smaller than the normal FS2 ones (and tend to be more erratic in their maneuvers). Also the fact that they dont have big ass shield arrays that extend the target size even further make it harder to hit the little goits

I just found it a shame that they didnt make all the Minbari ships use the 'stealth systems' the shivans have in the first few missions of FS (whereby you cant lock onto them properly, I always felt that would have been PERFECT for the Minbari).

The Raider campaign in the game is hard, the EM war one is just pure EVIL. But very satisfying to complete

 

[Locutus9956]

The Babylon Project is tricky as the fighters are actually somewhat smaller than the normal FS2 ones (and tend to be more erratic in their maneuvers). Also the fact that they dont have big ass shield arrays that extend the target size even further make it harder to hit the little goits

I just found it a shame that they didnt make all the Minbari ships use the 'stealth systems' the shivans have in the first few missions of FS (whereby you cant lock onto them properly, I always felt that would have been PERFECT for the Minbari).

The Raider campaign in the game is hard, the EM war one is just pure EVIL. But very satisfying to complete

(as noted though I will warn before you donwload it, even if your a Freespace vetaran who can take on fleets on your own in the main FS2 campaign, TBP will give you a damn good fight!)